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oniyide on 30 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
oniyide said:


I dont see Titanfall doing all that well, at least not on Xbone, yet another FPS releasing on a system that will be the more expensive than its competitors and histroy has show these types of games dont do all that well on consoles as DC universe and MAG have shown. And we dont know how good the game will be. It will do alright on PC

DC Universe was a mediocre MMO with monthly fees. MAG wasn't well received by critics but still sold more units than many other 1st party PS3 titles.

Right! We don't know if Titanfall will be good. The quality of the game will impact Titanfall's sales more than being online only. And since its on 360 and PC as well, it has an opportunity to reach a large audience.

and more Sony 1st party games sold better, both KZs, Motorstorm, Resistance, Uncharted, Infamous, etc. So i dont see your point. Hell Mag is in the middle in terms of sales, nothing special, and that was after significant price cuts.

Oh no, online only will absoulutely effect sales, since they affectly cut out a large segment of audience, got crappy online or no online at all? you dont play the game, period.



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oniyide on 30 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:
Mr Puggsly said:
CGI-Quality said:

Not defensive at all, actually.

BUT, I am curious, you say most of Sony's games sold less than 1.29mill. Mind putting out data to back that up? The latter three you mentioned don't even make up a quarter of their releases on PS3, which is where I'm confused.

I'm just gonna cut and paste the sales numbers of all Sony published games on VGChartz.

Remember, I'm just pointing out MAG sold better than most of Sony's PS3 releases.

 

24 MAG: Massive Action Game PS3 2010 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 0.76 0.24 0.09 0.20 1.29
25 MotorStorm: Pacific Rift PS3 2008 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.40 0.57 0.02 0.27 1.25
26 SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation PS3 2008 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 0.92 0.14 0.02 0.13 1.21
27 God of War: Ascension PS3 2013 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.72 0.29 0.03 0.16 1.20
28 Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds PS3 2007 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.29 0.01 0.76 0.03 1.09
29 Warhawk PS3 2007 Simulation Sony Computer Entertainment 0.47 0.38 0.00 0.17 1.02
30 EyePet PS3 2009 Simulation Sony Computer Entertainment 0.28 0.47 0.04 0.23 1.02
31 ModNation Racers PS3 2010 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.45 0.30 0.06 0.20 1.01
32 Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One PS3 2011 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.68 0.17 0.05 0.11 1.01
33 SingStar PS3 2007 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.42 0.47 0.00 0.11 0.99
34 The ICO & Shadow of the Colossus Collection PS3 2011 Adventure Sony Computer Entertainment 0.48 0.21 0.13 0.14 0.95
35 MLB 12: The Show PS3 2012 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.80 0.00 0.00 0.07 0.87
36 White Knight Chronicles: International Edition PS3 2008 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.28 0.09 0.36 0.12 0.86
37 SingStar Abba PS3 2008 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.25 0.44 0.00 0.15 0.84
38 Buzz! Quiz TV PS3 2008 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.27 0.43 0.00 0.12 0.82
39 Buzz! Quiz World PS3 2009 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.13 0.43 0.00 0.26 0.82
40 SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs PS3 2011 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 0.58 0.04 0.04 0.12 0.78
42 SingStar Vol. 2 PS3 2008 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.27 0.34 0.00 0.13 0.75
43 Genji: Days of the Blade PS3 2006 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.17 0.36 0.06 0.14 0.73
44 MLB 09: The Show PS3 2009 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.64 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.69
45 MLB 10: The Show PS3 2010 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.63 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.68
46 MLB 08: The Show PS3 2008 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.63 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.68
47 Twisted Metal (2012) PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.52 0.04 0.00 0.06 0.63
48 Formula 1: Championship Edition PS3 2006 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.57 0.04 0.00 0.61
49 Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty PS3 2008 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.47 0.00 0.10 0.58
50 White Knight Chronicles II PS3 2010 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.19 0.04 0.27 0.05 0.56
51 The Jak and Daxter Collection PS3 2012 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.38 0.10 0.00 0.06 0.54
52 Start the Party! PS3 2010 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.05 0.23 0.00 0.24 0.52
53 PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.28 0.14 0.03 0.07 0.52
54 MLB 11: The Show PS3 2011 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.48 0.00 0.00 0.04 0.52
55 The Sly Collection PS3 2010 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.36 0.04 0.01 0.11 0.51
56 The Fight: Lights Out PS3 2010 Fighting Sony Computer Entertainment 0.24 0.09 0.00 0.17 0.49
57 LittleBigPlanet Karting PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.24 0.17 0.01 0.07 0.49
58 Lair PS3 2007 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.34 0.02 0.08 0.03 0.47
59 SingStar Dance PS3 2010 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.07 0.09 0.00 0.29 0.44
61 Book of Spells PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.08 0.25 0.00 0.09 0.43
62 God of War Saga PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.39 0.00 0.00 0.03 0.42
63 MLB 13: The Show PS3 2013 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.38 0.00 0.00 0.03 0.41
64 Bleach: Soul Resurreccion PS3 2011 Fighting Nippon Ichi Software 0.23 0.06 0.07 0.05 0.41
65 MotorStorm: Apocalypse PS3 2011 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.16 0.06 0.00 0.15 0.37
66 DanceStar Party PS3 2011 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.27 0.00 0.09 0.36
67 Ratchet & Clank Collection PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.24 0.06 0.02 0.04 0.36
68 SingStar Queen PS3 2009 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.08 0.19 0.00 0.08 0.34
69 The Eye of Judgment PS3 2007 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.28 0.00 0.02 0.03 0.33
70 MLB 07: The Show PS3 2007 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.28 0.00 0.00 0.02 0.30
71 Buzz! The Ultimate Music Quiz PS3 2010 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.04 0.00 0.26 0.29
72 The Shoot PS3 2010 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 0.11 0.07 0.01 0.09 0.28
73 Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational PS3 2012 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.00 0.28 0.00 0.28
74 Folklore PS3 2007 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.18 0.01 0.05 0.02 0.26
75 NBA 07 PS3 2006 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.23 0.00 0.01 0.02 0.26
76 Tokyo Jungle PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.00 0.25 0.00 0.25
77 SingStar Take That PS3 2009 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.22 0.00 0.03 0.25
79 Starhawk PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.15 0.03 0.03 0.02 0.22
80 Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time PS3 2013 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment Europe 0.16 0.04 0.00 0.03 0.22
81 Afrika PS3 N/A Adventure Unknown 0.11 0.00 0.08 0.01 0.20
82 Sorcery PS3 2012 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.09 0.06 0.00 0.03 0.19
83 Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest PS3 2011 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.08 0.08 0.00 0.03 0.19
84 TV Superstars PS3 2010 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.03 0.03 0.00 0.11 0.17
85 Move Fitness PS3 N/A Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.13 0.00 0.04 0.17
86 Kung Fu Rider PS3 2010 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.05 0.03 0.01 0.08 0.17
87 Buzz! Brain of the UK PS3 2009 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.13 0.00 0.03 0.16
88 SingStar Motown PS3 2009 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.12 0.00 0.03 0.15
89 SingStar: Back to the 80s PS3 2011 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.10 0.00 0.03 0.13
90 NBA 09: The Inside PS3 2008 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.13
91 SingStar Pop Edition PS3 2009 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.00 0.10 0.00 0.03 0.13
92 Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault PS3 2012 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.13
93 PlayStation Move Heroes PS3 2011 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 0.06 0.04 0.00 0.03 0.13
94 NBA 08 PS3 2007 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.13
95 Carnival Island PS3 2011 Misc Sony Computer Entertainment 0.07 0.04 0.00 0.02 0.12
97 EyePet & Friends PS3 2011 Simulation Sony Computer Entertainment 0.03 0.06 0.00 0.02 0.11


I removed some stuff. The God of War Trilogy and titles like Siren: Blood Curse are either PSN releases or are PS2 games rehashed with a PS3 one. BUT, like I said in the edit, outside of Party Games (majority), Sony's biggest releases all did well above what MAG did. Thus, they have a very good track record on PS3.


you shouldnt have even bothered IMHO. the fact that he listed games that didnt even release outside of Japan, complitations, makes him hard to take serious. Hell, theres a game on there that wasnt even a 1st party title.



oniyide on 30 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
J_Allard said:
DC Universe didn't "do well" because it was an average MMO.

MAG didn't do well because it was a below average title that tried to live on a gimmick 256 player feature.

If Titanfall is half as good as CoD 1-4 were, it will sell great. If they put "from the makers of CoD" on the box it's going to add tons of sales.

Right, people are just using mediocre games as an example of how online only games do on consoles.

Destiny and Titanfall might be the first great console games that are online only.

quality is subjective for 1,  and for 2 hwo about you name some games that were online only on consoles and sold good?



oniyide on 30 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:
oniyide said:
CGI-Quality said:


I removed some stuff. The God of War Trilogy and titles like Siren: Blood Curse are either PSN releases or are PS2 games rehashed with a PS3 one. BUT, like I said in the edit, outside of Party Games (majority), Sony's biggest releases all did well above what MAG did. Thus, they have a very good track record on PS3.


you shouldnt have even bothered IMHO. the fact that he listed games that didnt even release outside of Japan, complitations, makes him hard to take serious. Hell, theres a game on there that wasnt even a 1st party title.

Agreed, but I like to offer chances. Just for comparison, I'm currently putting together Microsoft's list, which doesn't differ much from Sony's.

good for you, but there is some people you just know they have an agenda and its not even worth it sometimes. IMHO



Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:


I removed some stuff. The God of War Trilogy and titles like Siren: Blood Curse are either PSN releases or are PS2 games rehashed with a PS3 one. BUT, like I said in the edit, outside of Party Games (majority), Sony's biggest releases all did well above what MAG did. Thus, they have a very good track record on PS3.

The sentence I bolded shows you're being defensive. I didn't say otherwise.

I simply pointed out MAG (a game with modest reviews and online only) did better than most of Sony's other releases on PS3.

More MAG games could have potentially been a better investment than a lot of games on that list. It could have saved Zipper!



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Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2013
oniyide said:


you shouldnt have even bothered IMHO. the fact that he listed games that didnt even release outside of Japan, complitations, makes him hard to take serious. Hell, theres a game on there that wasnt even a 1st party title.

Hah, I was waiting for someone to spin this.

1. I said I'm just gonna post a list that has Sony published games, I didn't say I was going to edit a few titles that are irrelvent.

2. Even if you remove the few games that aren't 1st party, Japan only, or PS2 compilations, MAG is still closer to the top than bottom. CGI-Quality's editing proved that.

3. I actually stopped at #97 because after that was mostly Japan only games.



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Zappykins on 30 June 2013
Darth Tigris said:
So Titanfall is either an overhyped game for the Xbox One or it's a much-desired Xbox One next gen exclusive that people hope is timed???

This is what happens when gamers think emotionally. :

Tee hee, ten points for Gryffindor!

 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:

I think you use the word "defensive" too loosely. I didn't say you said they didn't. Again, I only asked for clarification. I got it, though it still leaves questions. Why add non 1st party titles and/or compilations?

Why? Because I'm lazy. I didn't add titles, I just didn't bother removing irrelevant titles.

In spite of my laziness, I still proved my point.



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Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:

Last time I take this off-topic with list(s):

MGS published/owned games (taking out compilations and games released in one territory) that sold less than MAG:

list...

SCE published/owned games that sold less than MAG (taking out compilations and games released in one territory):

list...

Realistically, these lists don't seem very different. Just for some perspective.

Not relevant.

I was simply pointing out MAG did better than most other Sony 1st party releases because you asked me to prove it.



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oniyide on 30 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
oniyide said:


you shouldnt have even bothered IMHO. the fact that he listed games that didnt even release outside of Japan, complitations, makes him hard to take serious. Hell, theres a game on there that wasnt even a 1st party title.

Hah, I was waiting for someone to spin this.

1. I said I'm just gonna post a list that has Sony published games, I didn't say I was going to edit a few titles that are irrelvent.

2. Even if you remove the few games that aren't 1st party, Japan only, or PS2 compilations, MAG is still closer to the top than bottom. CGI-Quality's editing proved that.

3. I actually stopped at #97 because after that was mostly Japan only games.

nope, its probably somewhere in the middle than anything, since you ignored all the games that did better, but for you to prove your point you would have to list ALL the 1st party Sony titles to see if you are really right or wrong. I know you're not going to do that, so you might as well drop it.