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AndrewWK on 29 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft.

And most flop or have modest sales. Not that who has the most IPs matters.

Nintendo dominates in is software sales. The 360 has also moved more 1st party software than Sony.


Thats great. Sony has far more successes than Microsoft in first party IP's and might not sell as much as Nintendo from but they take risks which Nintendo hasnt done with a new character since Pikmin.

don´t be silly. Sonys exclusive catalog is the weirdest thing there is. If they´d just stop ripping off Nintendo for some of the titles some of the first party games would be less emberassing and probably more successfull. And you know what games I am talking about.



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tuscaniman99 on 29 June 2013

I agree and that is why I am buying a Xbox One because it has the better game lineup to me, not to mention better online infrastructure and interface.



S.T.A.G.E. on 29 June 2013
AndrewWK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Thats great. Sony has far more successes than Microsoft in first party IP's and might not sell as much as Nintendo from but they take risks which Nintendo hasnt done with a new character since Pikmin.

don´t be silly. Sonys exclusive catalog is the weirdest thing there is. If they´d just stop ripping off Nintendo for some of the titles some of the first party games would be less emberassing and probably more successfull. And you know what games I am talking about.


How does this refute my point about Sonys investment in new IP's? They've put out great games this generation and invested more into it than anyone else. This gen they said they would be buckling down to increase the quality.



S.T.A.G.E. on 29 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I think you're referring to Sonys PS1 and PS2 and failing to differentiate how they've grown as a first party brand in their third generation even though their first party was always good. Bias sucks, pug pug. Bias isn't your strong suit. Go have your Kibble.  Move along now.

Sony devs are considered amongst the top devs this gen.

Well...that and Sony has more highly rated exclusives than MS. Heh...yeah.

PS1... PS2... PSP... PS3... and Vita. Sony relies more on on 3rd parties to push their hardware than 1st party. Which is fine and is why I say great 3rd party support is Sony's forte.

Sony's devs are considered amongst the top. I know this because Sony fans keep telling me this.

Review scores often don't translate to top sales. Critics don't reflect all of consumers interest.

Sonys first party these days is at the top of the heap on their lists and third party exclusives only bolster their quality. The majority of Sonys best third party exclusives have come out of Japan. Their best titles in general have come out of their western branches of the company.

Sony Santamonica

Polyphony Digital

Naughty Dog

Team Ico (Sony Japan)

Guerilla Games

Sucker Punch

Media Molecule

All companies that put out 85+ rated games that are under Sony.

Don't let me get into Sonys second party. Sonys third party exclusive makers have been less active than their second and first party.



Mr Puggsly on 29 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sonys first party these days is at the top of the heap on their lists and third party exclusives only bolster their quality. The majority of Sonys best third party exclusives have come out of Japan. Their best titles in general have come out of their western branches of the company.

Sony Santamonica

Polyphony Digital

Naughty Dog

Team Ico (Sony Japan)

Guerilla Games

Sucker Punch

Media Molecule

All companies that put out 85+ rated games that are under Sony.

Don't let me get into Sonys second party. Sonys third party exclusive makers have been less active than their second and first party.

You keep boasting about Sony's 1st party so you're clearly missing the point. Sony's 1st party isn't what moves a majority of their hardware, its 3rd party.

Once again, getting great 3rd party support is their forte.

I'm bored and hungry now. Good day.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 29 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sonys first party these days is at the top of the heap on their lists and third party exclusives only bolster their quality. The majority of Sonys best third party exclusives have come out of Japan. Their best titles in general have come out of their western branches of the company.

Sony Santamonica

Polyphony Digital

Naughty Dog

Team Ico (Sony Japan)

Guerilla Games

Sucker Punch

Media Molecule

All companies that put out 85+ rated games that are under Sony.

Don't let me get into Sonys second party. Sonys third party exclusive makers have been less active than their second and first party.

You keep boasting about Sony's 1st party so you're clearly missing the point. Sony's 1st party isn't what moves a majority of their hardware, its 3rd party.

Once again, getting great 3rd party support is their forte.

I'm bored and hungry now. Good day.


"Sony relies more on on 3rd parties to push their hardware than 1st party. "

This was your point. I just dubunked it. 

Feast your eyes upon the opitomy of being dependent on third party, Microsoft. Microsoft has paid more third parties to make more second party for them than first party in the current gen. They've paid for far more third parties exclusives and timed exclusives than Sony. To not understand this is to put the blame in the wrong place.



AndrewWK on 29 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AndrewWK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Thats great. Sony has far more successes than Microsoft in first party IP's and might not sell as much as Nintendo from but they take risks which Nintendo hasnt done with a new character since Pikmin.

don´t be silly. Sonys exclusive catalog is the weirdest thing there is. If they´d just stop ripping off Nintendo for some of the titles some of the first party games would be less emberassing and probably more successfull. And you know what games I am talking about.


How does this refute my point about Sonys investment in new IP's? They've put out great games this generation and invested more into it than anyone else. This gen they said they would be buckling down to increase the quality.

They put out three maybe 4 great games this generation and a bunch of good ones. Sony should rather invest in quality instead of quantity



Nem on 29 June 2013

He says that like Microsoft has better first party development studios than Sony and Nintendo.



Mr Puggsly on 29 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:


"Sony relies more on on 3rd parties to push their hardware than 1st party. "

This was your point. I just dubunked it. 

Feast your eyes upon the opitomy of being dependent on third party, Microsoft. Microsoft has paid more third parties to make more second party for them than first party in the current gen. They've paid for far more third parties exclusives and timed exclusives than Sony. To not understand this is to put the blame in the wrong place.

You debunked nothing.

MS and Sony both rely heavily on 3rd parties to push their hardware. Did you think I was saying that's exclusive to Sony?

But bear in mind 360 did sell more exclusive software than PS3.



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JWeinCom on 29 June 2013

How dare Sony throw out meaningless numbers people don't understand! Sony should use meaningful figures, like transistor counts.