I wouldn't even call those equals but the point wasn't to say consoles didnt age better but how little difference having gcn in consoles made in the pc gpu space when it came to Amd vs Nvidia.

I'm not worried at all, AMD will crush Nvidia very soon.

Yeah, if there is indeed a 3080Ti coming in only a couple of months, this is bound to be close to a 3090 in performance, but it needs to be priced to compete with a 6900. Seeing as how it'll have more and arguably better features and probably vastly improved RT capabilities compared to 6900 (which is no small part of why one would shell out that much for a GPU right now), AMD is a no-go for me. Seeing them launch without a DLSS alternative, downplaying its relevance, while they're simultaneously actually working on one shows us that AMD isn't as prepared and steeled as we might think. Their very own products appear to have been a bit hasty (especially since the driver issues seemed to be pretty bad right now), probably just as much so as Nvidia's frantic avalanche of new cards they can't really deliver.

I'm still curious how Nvidia will solve the conundrum of not alienating 3090 and 3080 buyers though if they launch a 3080Ti with decent pricing and performance so soon after the first batch came out, it's bound to piss someone off. I expect quite a few canceled 3090 and 3080 orders after new year's if this is the case, there will probably still be a bunch of people who haven't gotten their cards yet after Christmas (stores here are basically telling us that the next two-three shipments are already gone for pre-orders).

I'm still impressed by AMD's improvements and efforts, but not nearly impressed enough to actually consider buying from them.

RDNA2 just doesn't look that good, it's not living up to its hype. Price/perf is the same or worse as AMPERE, Perf/W looks about the same except on techpowerup, there RDNA2 is much more efficient most likely a screwup from them.

Yeah, if there is indeed a 3080Ti coming in only a couple of months, this is bound to be close to a 3090 in performance, but it needs to be priced to compete with a 6900. Seeing as how it'll have more and arguably better features and probably vastly improved RT capabilities compared to 6900 (which is no small part of why one would shell out that much for a GPU right now), AMD is a no-go for me. Seeing them launch without a DLSS alternative, downplaying its relevance, while they're simultaneously actually working on one shows us that AMD isn't as prepared and steeled as we might think. Their very own products appear to have been a bit hasty (especially since the driver issues seemed to be pretty bad right now), probably just as much so as Nvidia's frantic avalanche of new cards they can't really deliver.

I'm still curious how Nvidia will solve the conundrum of not alienating 3090 and 3080 buyers though if they launch a 3080Ti with decent pricing and performance so soon after the first batch came out, it's bound to piss someone off. I expect quite a few canceled 3090 and 3080 orders after new year's if this is the case, there will probably still be a bunch of people who haven't gotten their cards yet after Christmas (stores here are basically telling us that the next two-three shipments are already gone for pre-orders).

I'm still impressed by AMD's improvements and efforts, but not nearly impressed enough to actually consider buying from them.

The one thing that's clear is the more heavy the game is with RT. The bigger the lead Nvidia takes with RT.



6800 XT losses to a 3070 by quite a lot

I agree, in most cases Big Navi loses a lot compared to Ampere in Raytracing.

What I find curious in most of the raytracing tests, and most visibly in the Minecraft test, is that although the RX 6800XT is very severely limited in performance, it's minimum FPS are higher than with Ampere most of the time, and in this one even compared to a 3080 with DLSS. How come?

Graphics cards? Nope.

iGPU? Aye, those be very interesting for Ultrabooks, NUCs and the like.

Also, how funny would it be if AMD was leading in CPU performance and Intel main hold on the market being due to a superior integrated GPU. Same situation as 5 years ago, just with the roles reversed...