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Mummelmann said:
vivster said:

Looks like there is really no point going for a 3090 or 6900. Both are gonna be easily outshone by next gen's 8 series cards. I'll have to assume Nvidia will have something ready to compete with SAM by then too. So really no reason to sway AMD right now. In fact I don't think there will be a reason to go with AMD within the next 10 years. I doubt AMD will ever have a 30% lead on Nvidia in the foreseeable future like Nvidia had on AMD.

Yeah, if there is indeed a 3080Ti coming in only a couple of months, this is bound to be close to a 3090 in performance, but it needs to be priced to compete with a 6900. Seeing as how it'll have more and arguably better features and probably vastly improved RT capabilities compared to 6900 (which is no small part of why one would shell out that much for a GPU right now), AMD is a no-go for me. Seeing them launch without a DLSS alternative, downplaying its relevance, while they're simultaneously actually working on one shows us that AMD isn't as prepared and steeled as we might think. Their very own products appear to have been a bit hasty (especially since the driver issues seemed to be pretty bad right now), probably just as much so as Nvidia's frantic avalanche of new cards they can't really deliver.

I'm still curious how Nvidia will solve the conundrum of not alienating 3090 and 3080 buyers though if they launch a 3080Ti with decent pricing and performance so soon after the first batch came out, it's bound to piss someone off. I expect quite a few canceled 3090 and 3080 orders after new year's if this is the case, there will probably still be a bunch of people who haven't gotten their cards yet after Christmas (stores here are basically telling us that the next two-three shipments are already gone for pre-orders).

I'm still impressed by AMD's improvements and efforts, but not nearly impressed enough to actually consider buying from them.


There is no possible way to alienate either 3080 or 3090 buyers. A XX80ti that's 10% better and even more expensive is par for the course. And no 3090 buyer would even want a 3080ti. People who buy a 3090 do not regard $500 as a price gap.

Trumpstyle said:

RDNA2 just doesn't look that good, it's not living up to its hype. Price/perf is the same or worse as AMPERE, Perf/W looks about the same except on techpowerup, there RDNA2 is much more efficient most likely a screwup from them.

Pretty sure there was only a single person here who was hyping up RDNA2.



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