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Well this was predictable. I had a feeling this was going to happen just the other day, especially with Steam and the devs going with "last chance to pre-order!".

I can't wait for this site to take this as news that it's the PC as a platform fault instead of the devs just being bad at what they do. A man doesn't blame his tools.

http://www.destructoid.com/the-pc-port-of-disgaea-is-an-absolute-mess-344192.phtml#post



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

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I love how the latest PS4 sales prediction data article involved some comments taking jabs at PC gamers/gaming. Nice to know this site isn't going to change those types of people.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

BasilZero said:
Chazore said:
I love how the latest PS4 sales prediction data article involved some comments taking jabs at PC gamers/gaming. Nice to know this site isn't going to change those types of people.

 

Which article? ;o

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/263414/analyst-ps4-will-sell-more-than-100-million-units-lifetime/

Dunno why people felt they eneded to mention PC, other than to spit in their faces for some arbitrary reason. Far more people have claimed PC gaming has been dying a lot mroe than what people claim for consoles, but those in the article will tell you otherwise despite years of historical evidence. 

It's good that they are likely to sell that many but there is no reason to claim that it's king above every other system and better in every way, that's just pure fanboyism either way.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

 

Oh you mean the comments on the article lol

 

I thought you meant the article itself had that XD.

 

Well yeah, this site isnt really PC friendly "Shrugs". I got GAF for that though xD. The threads/discussions are actual discussions about the games and not jabbing threads like here or ghost towns.

It's already begun with the self blame game:

I really wish this kind of ignorance was called out more because PC folk, especially new to PC gaming did not "bring this upon themselves", there is no just and righteous one side to all this and it;s a huge folly to believe as such. I hate how that article basically had users deciding to take another swing at PC for no reason and I didn't even start anything. I'm honestly getting fed up with this site each day when users are allowed to spew crap and get away with it, calling self blame games as if that's a logical reason despite it being completely fucking ignorant and ignoring years worth of history. I'm not going to leave the site though because some people would very much enjoy that.

Shiken (3 minutes ago) 

@Chazore

All PC elitist do is shit on consoles. Of course pro console players will be hard on PC. The PC commmunity did it to themselves by always saying the PC is the only place to play, as if we did not already know PC will always be ahead of consoles.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:
JEMC said:

Hey, I just posted the wccftech article. I still haven't upgraded to Win 10 and don't have Rise of the Tomb Raider.

But I haven't read about problems with the Steam version of the game. What settings are you playing at? Maybe lowering them a bit would help.

nono, I meant the actual setting "full screen border windowless mode" for all games. Like so far I;ve been using it for most games that offer it and it;s been better for me than going full screen and slapping Vsync on (which gets me less than 60fps).

I haven't had a chance to play TR yet since I;ve been going with DL the following after finding out the old mod manager seems to work on the latest version of the game. (so I can remove CA).

That's very strange. How long has this been happening?



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JEMC said:
Chazore said:

nono, I meant the actual setting "full screen border windowless mode" for all games. Like so far I;ve been using it for most games that offer it and it;s been better for me than going full screen and slapping Vsync on (which gets me less than 60fps).

I haven't had a chance to play TR yet since I;ve been going with DL the following after finding out the old mod manager seems to work on the latest version of the game. (so I can remove CA).

That's very strange. How long has this been happening?

How long as what been happening?. Me having to use FSBWM?



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:
JEMC said:

That's very strange. How long has this been happening?

How long as what been happening?. Me having to use FSBWM?

Yes.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

BasilZero said:

Chazore said:

 
"All PC elitist do is shit on consoles. Of course pro console players will be hard on PC"

 

 

That quote LOL

 

Its the reason why humanity is fucked imo

 

"Lets blame future generations for what past generations did" mentality is hilarious l0l.

It's why we'll always have wars because one side thinks they are just and right while laying the self blame on someone else, starting with "you brought this upon yourself", does not do anyone a solid favour let alone start a bridge of understanding.

JEMC said:
Chazore said:

How long as what been happening?. Me having to use FSBWM?

Yes.

For a year since I discovered it's use. Before that I would use full screen mode for all my games and have to use Vsync, most game versions of Vsync don't actually work so for the most part I've had to use the control panel version from Nvidia which either way involved inpout and frame lag. Using FSBWM means I get no input or frame lag along with no screen tearing, only other solution is G-sync which I;m currently saving for.

GTA V is probably the worst offender with my setup though and that game isn't running with experimental settings or grass on ultra let alone the taxing AA options. It's probably my build in general that's causing this (not the V-sync issue though), or likely my CPU.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:
JEMC said:

Yes.

For a year since I discovered it's use. Before that I would use full screen mode for all my games and have to use Vsync, most game versions of Vsync don't actually work so for the most part I've had to use the control panel version from Nvidia which either way involved inpout and frame lag. Using FSBWM means I get no input or frame lag along with no screen tearing, only other solution is G-sync which I;m currently saving for.

GTA V is probably the worst offender with my setup though and that game isn't running with experimental settings or grass on ultra let alone the taxing AA options. It's probably my build in general that's causing this (not the V-sync issue though), or likely my CPU.

Wow, what's happening to you is very strange and sounds like a nightmare.

Have you tried doing a fresh install?



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

JEMC said:
Chazore said:

For a year since I discovered it's use. Before that I would use full screen mode for all my games and have to use Vsync, most game versions of Vsync don't actually work so for the most part I've had to use the control panel version from Nvidia which either way involved inpout and frame lag. Using FSBWM means I get no input or frame lag along with no screen tearing, only other solution is G-sync which I;m currently saving for.

GTA V is probably the worst offender with my setup though and that game isn't running with experimental settings or grass on ultra let alone the taxing AA options. It's probably my build in general that's causing this (not the V-sync issue though), or likely my CPU.

Wow, what's happening to you is very strange and sounds like a nightmare.

Have you tried doing a fresh install?

I have, yeah, like OS and everything.

Is V-sync not meant to cause frame and input lag?. I keep reading up about V-sync vs FSBWM and most of the time the latter is better.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.