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Jizz_Beard_thePirate 19 hours ago

I personally won't think it will be $1500. Everytime there was a price leak prior to launch for Nvidia cards, they have been incorrect. Since they are using the same process node as Lovelace with similar amount of cuda cores, I really doubt we will see much of an increase if any for 5080.



                  

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Darc Requiem 17 hours ago
JEMC said:

Ok, the video going private is... something. In any case, my opinion still remains.

The thing with Nvidia is that they like to not only win, but dominate. They will do everything they can to squeesh its competitior and leave nothing for them. They may very well price their 5090 at $2000, but what happened with the 4080, they'll price that to $1000 to leave enough gap between them to deter some people from going up like last gen. After all, they care about having the crown and have the top charter GPU in every possible review, but they'll be happy to sell less of those in favor of the 5080 so they can use the better chips for AI GPUs that give them far more money.

What I'm not sure about is what will they do with the 5070 and lower cards. Will they try to keep prices as with the 4000 series or will they lower them to fight with AMD and Intel? We'll see.

I err on the side of them being overpriced. My viewpoint is based on consumers more than Nvidia. I wouldn't wish the RTX 3050 8GB on my worse enemy and that card outsold the RX 6600 several times over as much as 10 to 1. Not only has the 6600 been the cheaper card, it's 26% faster on average. Raytracing at this class of video card is a non issue because the 3050 is not good at it either. When consumers starting buying the best option and not blindiy buying Nvidia, pricing will get better.



JEMC 17 hours ago
Darc Requiem said:
JEMC said:

Ok, the video going private is... something. In any case, my opinion still remains.

The thing with Nvidia is that they like to not only win, but dominate. They will do everything they can to squeesh its competitior and leave nothing for them. They may very well price their 5090 at $2000, but what happened with the 4080, they'll price that to $1000 to leave enough gap between them to deter some people from going up like last gen. After all, they care about having the crown and have the top charter GPU in every possible review, but they'll be happy to sell less of those in favor of the 5080 so they can use the better chips for AI GPUs that give them far more money.

What I'm not sure about is what will they do with the 5070 and lower cards. Will they try to keep prices as with the 4000 series or will they lower them to fight with AMD and Intel? We'll see.

I err on the side of them being overpriced. My viewpoint is based on consumers more than Nvidia. I wouldn't wish the RTX 3050 8GB on my worse enemy and that card outsold the RX 6600 several times over as much as 10 to 1. Not only has the 6600 been the cheaper card, it's 26% faster on average. Raytracing at this class of video card is a non issue because the 3050 is not good at it either. When consumers starting buying the best option and not blindiy buying Nvidia, pricing will get better.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm completely sure Nvidia's cards will cost more, but the doubt I have is how much more. The 4070, for example, was slower than the 7800XT, in raster, yet it launched with a $100 premium over the AMD card, and the 4060 was only around $50 more than the 7600 despite performing the same (RT doesn't matter in this class either).

And so I'm curious to see if the premium for ther new 5000 cards will be similar or if Nvidia may be willing to cut it down a little bit.



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Chazore 1 hour ago
JEMC said:

I'm having a hard time believing this.

Nvidia tried to sell the 4080 for $1200 and it failed miserably, that's why the Super revision was priced at $1000. Mind you, the 4090 was "only" three hundred more and so it made sense to spend a bit more and get a lot more, but the reality is that is you canb afford to spend that much money on a GPU, you can spend a bit more and get the better model, the 5090.

So yeah, I seriously doubt it.

But, you know, never say never, given that this time around there is no competition from AMD, Nvidia may have gone cocky and it's trying it again.

Apparently Nvidia/AMD are "scrambling" due to the approaching onset of the Trump tariffs, so that has me thinking; either both of them take a hit and try making them cheaper at entry price, and release revised models at a more expensive price once the tariffs are in place, or they launch their entry price at a higher than normal to offset the tariff price increase.

Either way, the customer is going to be paying for it, as well as retailers. I don't see a world anymore where Nvidia will take the hit first over the customer. So I'm fully expecting a price increase to allow them to ride out the new tariffs. Besides, we know Nvidia has it's earned rep, so why would they take a profit loss for rep gain, when they are already so far ahead in terms of mindshare? (From a business perspective that doesn't make sense, even to me). 



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