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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

I think if ps5 pro is any indication, having dedicated RT cores and dedicated tensor cores are not cheap. So the key factor of RDNA4 being priced right won't be very easy. But hey, we shall see. I'd love more competition but it feels like Radeon and Intel keeps shooting themselves every chance Nvidia gives them

The PS5 Pro pricing is what is because Microsoft has essentially waved the white flag. If Xbox was competitive, the system would have better specs and a $600 MSRP with the disc drive included. But Phil Spencer is drowning the comatose body that Don Mattrick left behind, so we get a $700 console sans disc drive with no CPU upgrade.



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JEMC said:

For the sake of competition and a healthy market, I hope RDNA4 moves some units. And also that Intel fexies Arrow Lake's gaming performance as they claim they will.

Agreed. Last thing we need is for AMD and intel to exit the market or relegate it's graphics technology to integrated graphics like what S3 did with the Savage once VIA bought them out.

Lack of competition has already given rise to some of the highest average GPU prices in decades... But even when AMD had a cheaper GPU and a better GPU than nVidia, nVidia still had more marketshare... And this is the same issue AMD has had in the CPU space since... Forever. Better CPU than Intel? Intel still had more marketshare. (I.E. Pentium 4 era, current Zen era)
It's hard to beat a brand that has significant mindshare... It's taken Ryzen 7~ years just to get 25% marketshare.

In saying that... The Radeon 7000 series isn't bad, they are actually really good and really competitive in the low/mid/high-end, they just need to be cheaper, a lot cheaper than nVidia as they lack feature parity in many aspects. I.E. DLSS/Ray Tracing.

I wonder how long it's going to take for AMD to roll out a large chunky stacked "3D cache" to it's GPU's? The MCD on the 7000 series already has TSV's ready to take stacked cache but AMD never took it further... Going to assume the cache hit rate was acceptable under RDNA3 with 96MB.

JEMC said:

AMD has gone on record stating that they want to gain marketshare, and you can't achieve that if you're not aggressive with your pricing.

And let's be honest, there's no chance in hell that AMD will match, much less beat Nvidia at RT with the new cards. Nvidia isn't Intel and have never stopped pushing forward. We can hope AMD vastly improves it (it won't be too hard), but Nvidia will move away again with Blackwell.

nVidia has only made a handful of screwups in it's companies entire history.

Firstly when they tried to push quadratics with NV1... Forcing them to go back to the drawing board and embrace polygons with the nVidia TNT series... And again with the Geforce FX, where they spent an inordinate amount of transistors on fixed-function blocks that could have been spent on improving shader capability to match the incredible ATI Radeon 9000 series.

And when nVidia refused to move to Direct X11 by dragging out the G80 architecture with the Geforce 8000/9000/100/200/300 series.

JEMC said:

I've just noticed that Chrkeller has posted the last days because he has asked to be banned. Weird. Did he have a clash with someone?

I hope was it because he couldn't get into that VGC Steam group.

More to it than that occurred, but in the end it was Chrkellers decision and I respect it.
One less PC gamer though.




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Pemalite said:
JEMC said:

For the sake of competition and a healthy market, I hope RDNA4 moves some units. And also that Intel fexies Arrow Lake's gaming performance as they claim they will.

Agreed. Last thing we need is for AMD and intel to exit the market or relegate it's graphics technology to integrated graphics like what S3 did with the Savage once VIA bought them out.

Lack of competition has already given rise to some of the highest average GPU prices in decades... But even when AMD had a cheaper GPU and a better GPU than nVidia, nVidia still had more marketshare... And this is the same issue AMD has had in the CPU space since... Forever. Better CPU than Intel? Intel still had more marketshare. (I.E. Pentium 4 era, current Zen era)
It's hard to beat a brand that has significant mindshare... It's taken Ryzen 7~ years just to get 25% marketshare.

In saying that... The Radeon 7000 series isn't bad, they are actually really good and really competitive in the low/mid/high-end, they just need to be cheaper, a lot cheaper than nVidia as they lack feature parity in many aspects. I.E. DLSS/Ray Tracing.

I wonder how long it's going to take for AMD to roll out a large chunky stacked "3D cache" to it's GPU's? The MCD on the 7000 series already has TSV's ready to take stacked cache but AMD never took it further... Going to assume the cache hit rate was acceptable under RDNA3 with 96MB.

JEMC said:

AMD has gone on record stating that they want to gain marketshare, and you can't achieve that if you're not aggressive with your pricing.

And let's be honest, there's no chance in hell that AMD will match, much less beat Nvidia at RT with the new cards. Nvidia isn't Intel and have never stopped pushing forward. We can hope AMD vastly improves it (it won't be too hard), but Nvidia will move away again with Blackwell.

nVidia has only made a handful of screwups in it's companies entire history.

Firstly when they tried to push quadratics with NV1... Forcing them to go back to the drawing board and embrace polygons with the nVidia TNT series... And again with the Geforce FX, where they spent an inordinate amount of transistors on fixed-function blocks that could have been spent on improving shader capability to match the incredible ATI Radeon 9000 series.

And when nVidia refused to move to Direct X11 by dragging out the G80 architecture with the Geforce 8000/9000/100/200/300 series.

JEMC said:

I've just noticed that Chrkeller has posted the last days because he has asked to be banned. Weird. Did he have a clash with someone?

I hope was it because he couldn't get into that VGC Steam group.

More to it than that occurred, but in the end it was Chrkellers decision and I respect it.
One less PC gamer though.


From my recollection, AMD didn't use stacked cache on the RX 7000 series because the performance increase was not signficant as they hoped. IIRC 5-7%. 



JEMC said:
TallSilhouette said:

I'm personally hoping that manufacturers start making smaller 4k gaming monitors. Seems the smallest you can typically get right now is 27" and that's still a bit large for say a triple monitor setup like I'd like to have in my future home office. Kinda defeats the purpose of multitasking when you can't really see your other screens without fully turning your head.

Wouldn't a 22" display with that resolution be a problem with text being rather small? There's a point where you'd have to set Windows scale beyond 100% and even increase the font size or the zoom of what you're trying to read to be able to see it easily.

I scale my 32" monitor already. I don't really care about cramming as much UI onto the screen as possible, I care about fidelity. 



JEMC said:

I couldn't put this in the gaming news, but I think some of you may be interested in this:

Wait, the Steam Controller 2 is in mass production? Someone grab the popcorn because nothing brought out the strong opinions like Valve's first controller
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/controllers/wait-the-steam-controller-2-is-in-mass-production-someone-grab-the-popcorn-because-nothing-brought-out-the-strong-opinions-like-valves-first-controller/
The original Steam Controller, which has been defunct now for half a decade, had a rocky history. Well, perhaps not so much rocky as controversial, it having a plethora of diehard fanboys and fangirls but also more than a smattering of detractors, including our very own hardware overlord Dave James. Now—someone shield Dave's ears—there's talk of a second iteration already being in mass production.

Valve boffin and leaker Brad Lynch shared on X (via The Verge) that, in addition to a VR controller, the Steam Controller 2, codenamed "Ibex" is "being tooled for a mass production goal in their factories right now" and "that's why I know they're in later stages of production."

That's great. I have a Steam controller and I really liked it, should have bought two when the fire sale was on.