^ i7 still as minimum CPU?! They'll certainly scoop all awards for the worst tech in games.
^ i7 still as minimum CPU?! They'll certainly scoop all awards for the worst tech in games.
Conina said:
I really like it so far. Most games are at least twice as fast as with my old GTX580 and I can use 3D Vision for many games again. DSR (dynamic super resolution) is a nice and uncomplicated way to enhance the graphics of older games which didn't support antialiasing, GTA IV for example. The card is quieter than my GTX580... but that's not an achievement. ;) The more expensive 970-models are probably way more silent, especially when idling. I only overclocked it slightly with the MSI Afterburner tool... 100 MHz core clock + 200 MHz memory clock, so ~10%. I haven't tested the OC limits... and probably wont as long as all games are fast enough. |
Thanks!
If you see big gains upgrading from a 580, imagine what I could see coming from a 5850.
I was interested in the noise and heat because this is one of the few 970 with a cooler that exhaust the heat out of the case, important with my P183 and its limited airflow. I don't recall the GTX580 to be called noisy as was the 480, so I don't think it will make more noise that my current card.
And if that and the problems the other cards have aren't enough, it's also one of the shortest cards as well as cheaper than the rest.
I'll have to decide between the PNY and the MSI one, whenever they become available.
Please excuse my bad English.
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JEMC said:
Thanks! If you see big gains upgrading from a 580, imagine what I could see coming from a 5850. I was interested in the noise and heat because this is one of the few 970 with a cooler that exhaust the heat out of the case, important with my P183 and its limited airflow. I don't recall the GTX580 to be called noisy as was the 480, so I don't think it will make more noise that my current card. And if that and the problems the other cards have aren't enough, it's also one of the shortest cards as well as cheaper than the rest. I'll have to decide between the PNY and the MSI one, whenever they become available. |
Have you considered this one?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_970_strix_review,1.html
HoloDust said:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_970_strix_review,1.html |
Yep, I have.
The "problem" with this card is that it puts noise before performance and it throttles back in demanding games to keep that noise down. It's a bit of a silly decision with an overclocked card, but that's what ASUS have decided. And it's also pricier than both the PNY and the superior MSI Twin Frozr.
But thanks for the suggestion.
Also, I wouldn't worry much about games demanding an i7, I think it's a silly way of asking for a quad core CPU. After all, an i5-2500 is faster than an i7-920, but since some i5 are dual cores with Hyper Threading, they go with an i7 to guarantee a true quad core CPU.
Please excuse my bad English.
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JEMC said:
Yep, I have. The "problem" with this card is that it puts noise before performance and it throttles back in demanding games to keep that noise down. It's a bit of a silly decision with an overclocked card, but that's what ASUS have decided. And it's also pricier than both the PNY and the superior MSI Twin Frozr. But thanks for the suggestion. |
I think it throttles once it reaches 80 degrees...which apparently it won't. Anyway, I think I've read something about whinning fan coil in MSI cards (and to be honest I always trust ASUS craftmenship more than MSI), so just a suggestion.
I just finished the main story of "Dead Rising 3" and had a blast! I'm so glad I ignored the mediocre ratings. The "untold stories" are next... included for free in the PC-version, sold seperately for 30 bucks for XBO.
Oh, and GameSpot is now officially on my black list. 7/10 for the XBO version, but only 3/10 for the PC version while they admit that the PC version is technically better and has the DLCs included for free.
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/dead-rising-3-review/1900-6415558/
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/dead-rising-3-apocalypse-edition-review/1900-6415861/
HoloDust said:
I think it throttles once it reaches 80 degrees...which apparently it won't. Anyway, I think I've read something about whinning fan coil in MSI cards (and to be honest I always trust ASUS craftmenship more than MSI), so just a suggestion. |
I've also read about that coil noise (which is strange as MSI uses upgraded components, but whatever) as well as the issue with the secondary fan that makes it spin at 100% even when the card is in 2D mode (apparently it has something to do with removing the sticker of the fans).
My current stand with the different cards is:
Gigabyte_ One of the best cards all around: comes with a backplate, has a good factory OC (with room to improve if needed), good power consumption and very cool. Cons: it's on the expensive side, it's way to long for my case and exhausts all the heat into the case. The last 2 bits make them a "no go" for me.
MSI_ The goods: good factory OC (with room to improve if needed), short card and very cool. It's on the middle of the road when it comes to price, at least here. Cons: its power consumption is one of the worst, has no backplate even with memory chips being there, the coil and fan issues and exhausts most of the heat into the case.
EVGA_ Let's just say that they aren't bad, but they don't excel in any good aspec, but has problems with the cooler as well as coil noises.
ASUS_ Good all around, specially its power consumption numbers, but it's expensive and as I said in my previous post, the card can throttle. Also, if you decide to OC you'll need to set the fan speed manually as they won't come past 42% speed by itself (at least that's what this site had to do), so you lose the 0 noise advantage when idling.
Palit_ The only card I've seen on retail with a blower cooler that exhausts all the heat out of the case, it's also one of the shortest and cheaper ones. But it comes at factory speeds.
Zotac_ 3 different versions that at the end of the day puts them on the same situation of EVGA, they don't stand out of the rest in anything.
That's basically the brands available around here and my thoughts on them.
Please excuse my bad English.
Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070
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JEMC said:
I've also read about that coil noise (which is strange as MSI uses upgraded components, but whatever) as well as the issue with the secondary fan that makes it spin at 100% even when the card is in 2D mode (apparently it has something to do with removing the sticker of the fans). My current stand with the different cards is: Gigabyte_ One of the best cards all around: comes with a backplate, has a good factory OC (with room to improve if needed), good power consumption and very cool. Cons: it's on the expensive side, it's way to long for my case and exhausts all the heat into the case. The last 2 bits make them a "no go" for me. MSI_ The goods: good factory OC (with room to improve if needed), short card and very cool. It's on the middle of the road when it comes to price, at least here. Cons: its power consumption is one of the worst, has no backplate even with memory chips being there, the coil and fan issues and exhausts most of the heat into the case. EVGA_ Let's just say that they aren't bad, but they don't excel in any good aspec, but has problems with the cooler as well as coil noises. ASUS_ Good all around, specially its power consumption numbers, but it's expensive and as I said in my previous post, the card can throttle. Also, if you decide to OC you'll need to set the fan speed manually as they won't come past 42% speed by itself (at least that's what this site had to do), so you lose the 0 noise advantage when idling. Palit_ The only card I've seen on retail with a blower cooler that exhausts all the heat out of the case, it's also one of the shortest and cheaper ones. But it comes at factory speeds. Zotac_ 3 different versions that at the end of the day puts them on the same situation of EVGA, they don't stand out of the rest in anything.
That's basically the brands available around here and my thoughts on them. |
Fair assessment.
Palit JetStream runs at higher than reference clocks and it seems like a pretty cool (according to Guru3D thermals) and good performing card. However, it does not have a backplate, and techpowerup also reported some coil noise.
HoloDust said:
Fair assessment. Palit JetStream runs at higher than reference clocks and it seems like a pretty cool (according to Guru3D thermals) and good performing card. However, it does not have a backplate, and techpowerup also reported some coil noise. |
WTF?!
I thought coil noise was something of the past, and yet it seems that all 970, whatever the card brand is, can suffer it .
Please excuse my bad English.
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