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GPU prices are still quite high over here. It will take a while before they come down to sensible levels.



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Lots of stock here in UK. A bunch of 3060, 70 and 90's from multiple outlets but high AiB pricing remains largely the same. Just a matter of time before they cave in because ain't nobody paying near double MSRP at retail when the gold rush is nearing an end.



Yea, the prices in Canada aren't as bad as some parts of the world when you convert the currency but still kinda terrible. Still better than the craycray prices a couple of months ago.

The good thing is, the more scalpers sees posts like this on reddit, the more fear will come into their heads and they will continue to lower prices.



                  

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JEMC said:

GPU prices are still quite high over here. It will take a while before they come down to sensible levels.

Me when I just spent a thousand dollars in a GPU but then realized I can sell my used RX 570 for $400:



 

 

 

 

 

Few more things...

Battlefield 2042 Will Have NVIDIA (Supporting DLSS and Reflex) and Xbox as Its Partners

https://wccftech.com/battlefield-2042-will-have-nvidia-supporting-dlss-and-reflex-and-xbox-as-its-partners/

NVIDIA Adds Raytracing And DLSS 2.0 Support For Doom Eternal With Up To 50% Performance Increase

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-adds-raytracing-and-dlss-2-0-support-for-doom-eternal-with-up-to-50-performance-increase/

STALKER 2 has high hardware requirements on PC - Needs 150GB of storage

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/software/stalker_2_has_high_hardware_requirements_on_pc_-_needs_150gb_of_storage/1

God these storage sizes...

MINIMUM:

OS: Windows 10
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X / Intel Core i5-7600K
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Storage: 150 GB available space

RECOMMENDED:

OS: Windows 10
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X / Intel Core i7-9700K
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB
Storage: 150 GB available space
 


                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Yea, the prices in Canada aren't as bad as some parts of the world when you convert the currency but still kinda terrible. Still better than the craycray prices a couple of months ago.

The good thing is, the more scalpers sees posts like this on reddit, the more fear will come into their heads and they will continue to lower prices.

Yeah exactly, would be risky for scalpers when stock in readily in supply and a large portion of buyers are out the game. Prices too are an uncertainty so they'll have a quite high chance of barely breaking even or selling for barely any profit and even (hopefully) at a loss! I've seen Ebay prices drop quite substantially recently on RX and RTX cards so its certainly looking good for legit buyers.

And 150GB for S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2.. oof, will need

SSD (soon enough) lol



Captain_Yuri said:

So as GPU stock is coming back and CPUs has been in stock for a while now, we should probably do some recommendations as the prices start to normalize. This will be mine feel free to make your own!

Upper Mid ranged to Enthusiast:

Ryzen 5000 + Nvidia GPUs

- I think it's hard not to go this route. AMD's 5000 series CPUs smokes everything Intel has to offer while giving you an upgrade path into Zen 3 Vcache refresh. From 5600x-5950x, it's hard not to go AMD CPUs if you have the money.

- While Nvidia GPUs aren't in the same dominating position as they once were, I think it's hard not to go Nvidia GPUs as well. At 4k, Nvidia GPUs dominate in Raster. At 1440p they are able to trade blows but usually slightly behind 6000 series in Raster on average. But you get a ton more features:

-- Significantly faster Ray Tracing performance as tons of Ray Tracing games are continuing to come out
-- DLSS
-- ReBar (SAM alternative)
-- FSR since it works on any GPUs
-- Superior Nvenc codec
-- RTX Voice/Broadcast
-- Wider support of applications that use Cuda
-- Support for both G-sync and G-sync Compatible monitors

So similar to how buying a 5700XT was a mistake for many in retrospec as Turing will be getting all the next gen goodies while the 5700XT will be left behind in many areas, I think it's better to skip RDNA 2 and wait for RDNA 3 if you don't want to go with Nvidia as the performance uplift of RDNA 3 will alleviate a lot of the shortcomings of RDNA 2. While RDNA 2 does have a number of benefits, Nvidia simply as more and will age better imo. Just be sure to Skip the 3070 Ti and the 3080 Ti if possible.

Low to mid range:

Intel + Nvidia

In some ways, recommending Intel as a low to mid range build does put a smile to my face cause it shows how things can change if you don't innovate. The i5 11400 costing at $182 is the best performing 6 core 12 thread cpu you can get for it's price. AMD sadly doesn't have anything to offer that is nearly as competitive. The 5600G not only costs more but doesn't give you pci-e gen4 and performs worse. Pair that with a 3060 Ti and you will have a fap worthy setup without breaking the bank. Hopefully AMD can come out with a good alternative in the GPU space at the very least as I don't like the value of the regular 3060.

Low spec gamer:

5600G

Now if you are on a very tight budget and can't really afford a dGPU, that's where a 5600G becomes a good value. It smokes all the iGPUs on the market while beating a GT 1030.

Well, for the GPU, I'd say it still depends on price and availability right now. Still not every card is available, and even less without significant markup.

As for the Raytracing, it's normal that the early games all ran much better on NVidia. After all, they are programmed with the tensor cores in mind and use NVidias own system instead of something hardware-agnostic like DXR. Of course anything that's not built that way would suffer a lot in terms of performance. I think we'll have to wait and see late this year or even next year to truly see how well RDNA2 and Ampere compare in raytracing when no platform-specific software is getting used.

Mind you, I'm not saying that AMD would beat NVidia, far from it. I'm just saying that the gap is smaller than you think it is.



Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

So as GPU stock is coming back and CPUs has been in stock for a while now, we should probably do some recommendations as the prices start to normalize. This will be mine feel free to make your own!

Upper Mid ranged to Enthusiast:

Ryzen 5000 + Nvidia GPUs

- I think it's hard not to go this route. AMD's 5000 series CPUs smokes everything Intel has to offer while giving you an upgrade path into Zen 3 Vcache refresh. From 5600x-5950x, it's hard not to go AMD CPUs if you have the money.

- While Nvidia GPUs aren't in the same dominating position as they once were, I think it's hard not to go Nvidia GPUs as well. At 4k, Nvidia GPUs dominate in Raster. At 1440p they are able to trade blows but usually slightly behind 6000 series in Raster on average. But you get a ton more features:

-- Significantly faster Ray Tracing performance as tons of Ray Tracing games are continuing to come out
-- DLSS
-- ReBar (SAM alternative)
-- FSR since it works on any GPUs
-- Superior Nvenc codec
-- RTX Voice/Broadcast
-- Wider support of applications that use Cuda
-- Support for both G-sync and G-sync Compatible monitors

So similar to how buying a 5700XT was a mistake for many in retrospec as Turing will be getting all the next gen goodies while the 5700XT will be left behind in many areas, I think it's better to skip RDNA 2 and wait for RDNA 3 if you don't want to go with Nvidia as the performance uplift of RDNA 3 will alleviate a lot of the shortcomings of RDNA 2. While RDNA 2 does have a number of benefits, Nvidia simply as more and will age better imo. Just be sure to Skip the 3070 Ti and the 3080 Ti if possible.

Low to mid range:

Intel + Nvidia

In some ways, recommending Intel as a low to mid range build does put a smile to my face cause it shows how things can change if you don't innovate. The i5 11400 costing at $182 is the best performing 6 core 12 thread cpu you can get for it's price. AMD sadly doesn't have anything to offer that is nearly as competitive. The 5600G not only costs more but doesn't give you pci-e gen4 and performs worse. Pair that with a 3060 Ti and you will have a fap worthy setup without breaking the bank. Hopefully AMD can come out with a good alternative in the GPU space at the very least as I don't like the value of the regular 3060.

Low spec gamer:

5600G

Now if you are on a very tight budget and can't really afford a dGPU, that's where a 5600G becomes a good value. It smokes all the iGPUs on the market while beating a GT 1030.

Well, for the GPU, I'd say it still depends on price and availability right now. Still not every card is available, and even less without significant markup.

As for the Raytracing, it's normal that the early games all ran much better on NVidia. After all, they are programmed with the tensor cores in mind and use NVidias own system instead of something hardware-agnostic like DXR. Of course anything that's not built that way would suffer a lot in terms of performance. I think we'll have to wait and see late this year or even next year to truly see how well RDNA2 and Ampere compare in raytracing when no platform-specific software is getting used.

Mind you, I'm not saying that AMD would beat NVidia, far from it. I'm just saying that the gap is smaller than you think it is.

Yea but I don't think we will have to wait too much longer for the prices to go back to normal based on the trends. There's a bit to go before going back to normal sure but I think we should be at a good place soon enough.

But this is also part of my point. If people should wait a year and see how it goes, they may as well wait a year and get RDNA 3 instead of assuming it will get much better for RDNA 2. It's never a good idea to buy a GPU based on future promises or assumptions. We have seen this play out during GCN countless times already. Plus we have seen games like Metro Enhanced Edition where it is very well optimized for both Ampere and RDNA 2 but Ampere still takes a very noticeable lead, especially at the tougher scenes.

I think the gap will be significant enough that Ampere will continue have a very noticeable performance lead even a year from now in Ray Tracing compared to RDNA 2. RDNA 3 vs Lovelace though... That could be a very different story.



                  

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Please excuse my bad English.

Former gaming PC: i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Current gaming PC: R5-7600, 32GB RAM 6000MT/s (CL30) and a RX 9060XT 16GB

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.