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hinch on 24 April 2021

I've had the new PC up and running for a week now and am pretty happy with it overall. The only real gripe I had was with the default out of the box settings from my motherboard. I don't know if auto sets PBO to be on but the voltage and temp spikes were bothering me (goes up to 1.42V on vcore!). Like I would go from 38C from idle to low 40's on very light loads and spikes closer to 50 if I have more apps open in the background or switching programs.

Since, I've set it to 1.15V V Core and enabled PBO. Still boost to 4.65Ghz with way less power and heat. Apparently it lowers performance (slightly) but something to consider during the hot summer months!

Edit: Also tried offsetting -0.1 Vcore on dynamic which also decent since it only boosts when needed ^^

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 24 April 2021
hinch said:

I've had the new PC up and running for a week now and am pretty happy with it overall. The only real gripe I had was with the default out of the box settings from my motherboard. I don't know if auto sets PBO to be on but the voltage and temp spikes were bothering me (goes up to 1.42V on vcore!). Like I would go from 38C from idle to low 40's on very light loads and spikes closer to 50 if I have more apps open in the background or switching programs.

Since, I've set it to 1.15V V Core and enabled PBO. Still boost to 4.65Ghz with way less power and heat. Apparently it lowers performance (slightly) but something to consider during the hot summer months!

Edit: Also tried offsetting -0.1 Vcore on dynamic which also decent since it only boosts when needed ^^

Apparently it's "normal" to have those types of voltages as it does go down and up. I personally have my curve optimizer set to -20 and that did the trick for the most part.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

hinch on 24 April 2021

Oo nice.. thanks for the link. Will do a bit more tinkering when my new RAM arrives. Bit new to this lol, anything over 1.39V seems hella high to me haha.



Bofferbrauer2 on 24 April 2021
Captain_Yuri said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Sure, there's quite a bit of the capacity going into the consoles, but here it is also very dependent on the orders from the clients, here Microsoft and Sony. While their demand is not met yet, I don't think they will increase their orders by so much that they would gobble up much of the increased capacity, 20% of those 80% at most, but probably more like only 10%. With CPUs mostly meeting demand now, I'd say most of the new capacity can go into GPUs.

We will see but I would think their goal is to get as large of a user base for their consoles as fast as possible so developers can move on from their last gen consoles to their next gen ones. Usually the thing that prevents devs from going next gen only is the user base. So there's plenty of reason as to why Sony and MS would take up quite a lot of the capacity as I doubt it's a fixed number until supply meets demand. If anything, it's however many consoles AMD can make.

And then you add in AMD's new Epyc CPUs and laptops CPUs taking up capacity as well, I am doubtful that the supply of RDNA 2 cards will increase very much in the short term. But if they do, I'll be glad cause we need to normalize the PC hardware market.

It's clear that AMD kept some reserve for EPYC, otherwise the desktop CPUs would be even harder to find than the GPUs are right now. In fact, pretty much all Ryzen 5000 chips are available right now at or close to retail price despite EPYC having officially launched (officially because the big providers did get chips before already from AMD), so there doesn't seem to be any need to increase the production of these chips by more than just a couple percent.

Consoles on the other hand take up a lot of storage space, so neither Sony or Microsoft can afford to order too many of them, as they simply wouldn't run out of storage space to put them. So they certainly would only increase the orders gradually to make sure they don't order too much at once.

In other words, there's a window now where GPU production capacity can increase significantly for a period of time, and it's quite possible that AMD will seize it to beat NVidia.



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 24 April 2021
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:

We will see but I would think their goal is to get as large of a user base for their consoles as fast as possible so developers can move on from their last gen consoles to their next gen ones. Usually the thing that prevents devs from going next gen only is the user base. So there's plenty of reason as to why Sony and MS would take up quite a lot of the capacity as I doubt it's a fixed number until supply meets demand. If anything, it's however many consoles AMD can make.

And then you add in AMD's new Epyc CPUs and laptops CPUs taking up capacity as well, I am doubtful that the supply of RDNA 2 cards will increase very much in the short term. But if they do, I'll be glad cause we need to normalize the PC hardware market.

It's clear that AMD kept some reserve for EPYC, otherwise the desktop CPUs would be even harder to find than the GPUs are right now. In fact, pretty much all Ryzen 5000 chips are available right now at or close to retail price despite EPYC having officially launched (officially because the big providers did get chips before already from AMD), so there doesn't seem to be any need to increase the production of these chips by more than just a couple percent.

Consoles on the other hand take up a lot of storage space, so neither Sony or Microsoft can afford to order too many of them, as they simply wouldn't run out of storage space to put them. So they certainly would only increase the orders gradually to make sure they don't order too much at once.

In other words, there's a window now where GPU production capacity can increase significantly for a period of time, and it's quite possible that AMD will seize it to beat NVidia.

I doubt they are having issues with storage space as consoles are flying off the shelves as fast as they come in stock. But regardless, I do hope you are right. The sooner that PC stock levels goes back to normal, the better.



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 24 April 2021
hinch said:

Oo nice.. thanks for the link. Will do a bit more tinkering when my new RAM arrives. Bit new to this lol, anything over 1.39V seems hella high to me haha.

Yea I was a bit concerned myself when I got my 5950x seeing those voltages. Hell the temps were pretty high as well until I did the Curve optimizer trick. But I guess AMD really wanted to push Ryzen 5000 to it's limits and the end result sure was fap worthy!



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Bofferbrauer2 on 24 April 2021
Captain_Yuri said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

It's clear that AMD kept some reserve for EPYC, otherwise the desktop CPUs would be even harder to find than the GPUs are right now. In fact, pretty much all Ryzen 5000 chips are available right now at or close to retail price despite EPYC having officially launched (officially because the big providers did get chips before already from AMD), so there doesn't seem to be any need to increase the production of these chips by more than just a couple percent.

Consoles on the other hand take up a lot of storage space, so neither Sony or Microsoft can afford to order too many of them, as they simply wouldn't run out of storage space to put them. So they certainly would only increase the orders gradually to make sure they don't order too much at once.

In other words, there's a window now where GPU production capacity can increase significantly for a period of time, and it's quite possible that AMD will seize it to beat NVidia.

I doubt they are having issues with storage space as consoles are flying off the shelves as fast as they come in stock. But regardless, I do hope you are right. The sooner that PC stock levels goes back to normal, the better.

Yes, and that's why they will order more - but not a huge jump, because once the demand backlog is met, weekly sales would drop down quite a bit to a normal baseline of the respective console. Generally, this happens organically and thus there's no real big drop in sales, but if production would get increased a lot, then all those consoles risk to clog up the warehouses once the current demand backlog is met.



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 25 April 2021

Some news

Dell up to their shady tactics again

TLDW: Dell automatically enables a subscription based warranty for their prebuilts where you have to pay a minimum of $10 a month for their basic warranty. If that isn't shady enough, the $10 a month starts after your first month even though Dell is supposed to give you 1 year basic warranty for free. But if you disable the auto subscription, it reverts back to the 1 year of free basic warranty coverage. Sigh Dell...


Nier Replicant High FPS Fix(Greater than 60FPS now playable)... Via Mods!

https://www.nexusmods.com/nierreplicant/mods/3?tab=description

Once again, the modding community fixes what SE should be fixing instead. God I sure hope SE doesn't skimp on the PC version again...

Hard Drive Prices Skyrocket In Asia Due to New Chia Cryptocoin, Scalpers Capitalize (already up to a 66.7% increase in pricing on large-capacity enterprise hard drives since last week)

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/hard-drive-prices-skyrocket-asia-scalpers-making-bank

As these large storage hard drives become low in stock, the lower storage hard drive becomes the next target as those would still be in stock.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 25 April 2021

                  

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JEMC on 25 April 2021

I wonder if Dell is having financial troubles (or at least they had before Covid came and PC sales went through the roof), because those kind of tactics, which, imho, are borderline fraudulent, can be seen on business that are in desperate need of money.

The new problem with HDDs... well, at least it's gradual and we see it coming. We'll be able to purchase extra storage if needed before those parasites reach their hands for them.



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Zkuq on 25 April 2021

Hmm. Makes me think if I should buy another external HDD while I still can, for backup purposes. This doesn't seem to be affecting SSDs, correct? Because of their higher prices, I would assume? If this is HDDs only, I don't really care, because I don't need that much storage (except for external storage, and my needs are more in the range of 1-4 TB).