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Captain_Yuri said:
Trumpstyle said:

The prophecy will become true, it's just a matter of time.

RDNA2 will beat Ampere in RTX performance.

Did you even watch the video?

"Playstation 5 is not using any form of Ray Tracing ambient occlusion
Medium Local Shadow Ray Tracing
Medium Sun Shadow Ray Tracing
Not every section/level of the game uses Ray Traced Shadows on PS5
PS5 has settings that's Lower than Low on PC which will skew the PC results
6800XT is not performing as well as I thought on PC
PC is under performing because of the lower than low settings on PS5"

This is all I gotta say to your comment and your terrible attempts at downplaying Ampere:

If it were up to me, you would be banned from this thread for all your attempts to miss lead people

I read the article

"but through a process of careful testing, it was possible to provide a very close match, up to and including ray tracing features, so let's get straight into the nitty-gritty."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-call-of-duty-black-ops-cold-war-pc-vs-ps5

From what I seen you can turn off those RTX effects on PC and the rtx effects works different per map. But I will check the video. I just skipped to fps meter to get a screenshot.

From the article the only thing that runs lower than PC is alpha effects, nothing else.



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Trumpstyle said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Did you even watch the video?

"Playstation 5 is not using any form of Ray Tracing ambient occlusion
Medium Local Shadow Ray Tracing
Medium Sun Shadow Ray Tracing
Not every section/level of the game uses Ray Traced Shadows on PS5
PS5 has settings that's Lower than Low on PC which will skew the PC results
6800XT is not performing as well as I thought on PC
PC is under performing because of the lower than low settings on PS5"

This is all I gotta say to your comment and your terrible attempts at downplaying Ampere:

If it were up to me, you would be banned from this thread for all your attempts to miss lead people

I read the article

"but through a process of careful testing, it was possible to provide a very close match, up to and including ray tracing features, so let's get straight into the nitty-gritty."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-call-of-duty-black-ops-cold-war-pc-vs-ps5

From what I seen you can turn off those RTX effects on PC and the rtx effects works different per map. But I will check the video. I just skipped to fps meter to get a screenshot.

Maybe you should read the article again:

"This is our best shot at directly stacking up console vs PC, but there's a very important caveat to factor in - the lower precision effects buffer on PS5, which we can't replicate on PC, and where we can't even begin to measure the possible performance penalty on our GPUs. Put simply, ballpark is the best we're going to get."

"On the AMD side of things, I found the RX 6800 XT's result to be off-pace - it has 72 compute units vs the 36 inside PlayStation 5, it's based on the same architecture, and clock speeds are broadly equivalent, yet it delivered just 29.4 per cent of extra performance. Whether it's an optimisation issue, or a driver issue, I expected more. "



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Did you even watch the video?

"Playstation 5 is not using any form of Ray Tracing ambient occlusion
Medium Local Shadow Ray Tracing
Medium Sun Shadow Ray Tracing
Not every section/level of the game uses Ray Traced Shadows on PS5
PS5 has settings that's Lower than Low on PC which will skew the PC results
6800XT ran the scene very poorly and not scaling like I expected it should
PC is under performing because of the lower than low settings on PS5"

This is all I gotta say to your comment and your terrible attempts at downplaying Ampere:

If it were up to me, you would be banned from this thread for all your attempts to miss lead people

I just watched the video, OFC PS5 DON'T run maximun settings, its running 4k native, as I said before PS5 don't run 1 RTX shadow effect on a certain map, but in the tested area it does. There's nothing skew here except 1 setting looks slightly worse the medium setting on PC.

It's you who mislead, you did it before with my World of warcraft RTX analysis.

Edit: read your new reply, Yes the special effect settings, which I knew.

For 6800xt, some games just scales badly with more gpu power.

Last edited by Trumpstyle - on 19 January 2021

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Beaten Sigrun on God of war mode

Beaten DOOM ultra-nightmare with NO endless ammo-rune, 2x super shotgun and no decoys on ps4 pro.

1-0 against Grubby in Wc3 frozen throne ladder!!

Trumpstyle said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Did you even watch the video?

"Playstation 5 is not using any form of Ray Tracing ambient occlusion
Medium Local Shadow Ray Tracing
Medium Sun Shadow Ray Tracing
Not every section/level of the game uses Ray Traced Shadows on PS5
PS5 has settings that's Lower than Low on PC which will skew the PC results
6800XT ran the scene very poorly and not scaling like I expected it should
PC is under performing because of the lower than low settings on PS5"

This is all I gotta say to your comment and your terrible attempts at downplaying Ampere:

If it were up to me, you would be banned from this thread for all your attempts to miss lead people

I just watched the video, OFC PS5 DON'T run maximun settings, its running 4k native, as I said before PS5 don't run 1 RTX shadow effect on a certain map, but in the tested area it does. There's nothing skew here except 1 setting looks slightly worse the medium setting on PC.

It's you who mislead, you did it before with my World of warcraft RTX analysis.

Edit: read your new reply, Yes the special effect settings, which I knew.

For 6800xt, some games just scales badly with more gpu power.

Seriously? PS5 has settings that runs lower than low compared to PC which skews the results. Even Alex says this in his video Multiple Times. It's not about whether or not it runs at max settings, it's about the ps5 running the game at settings that's lower than low on PC which gives the ps5 an advantage which is Stated both in the video and in the article. Your WoW RTX analysis was complete nonsense because you cherry picked your screenshots without any understanding as to why it was getting those frames.

And in your original post, you said:

"The prophecy will become true, it's just a matter of time. RDNA2 will beat Ampere in RTX performance."

And you posted a screenshot without stating why it was running at those frames. That's literately miss leading lmao...

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 19 January 2021

                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
Trumpstyle said:

I just watched the video, OFC PS5 DON'T run maximun settings, its running 4k native, as I said before PS5 don't run 1 RTX shadow effect on a certain map, but in the tested area it does. There's nothing skew here except 1 setting looks slightly worse the medium setting on PC.

It's you who mislead, you did it before with my World of warcraft RTX analysis.

Edit: read your new reply, Yes the special effect settings, which I knew.

For 6800xt, some games just scales badly with more gpu power.

Seriously? PS5 has settings that runs lower than low on PC which skews the results. Even Alex says this in his video Multiple Times. It's not about whether or not it runs at max settings, it's about the ps5 running the game at settings that's lower than low on PC which gives the ps5 an advantage which is Stated both in the video and in the article. Your WoW RTX analysis was complete nonsense because you cherry picked your screenshots without any understanding as to why it was getting those frames.

And in your original post, you said:

"The prophecy will become true, it's just a matter of time. RDNA2 will beat Ampere in RTX performance."

And you posted a screenshot without stating why it was running at those frames. That's literately miss leading lmao...

It doesn't run lower than lowest settings, except 1 which I mention, special effects, give me quotes from article or timestamp in the video if you claiming otherwise, what you don't mention is that PS5 is running higher than ultra shadows (highest settings on pc) in 1 map.

I'm posting digitalfoundries results. Anyone would recognise instantly from that screenshot that it was from digitalfoundry, so anyone could check the result. For the WOW rtx analysis I gave links so again anyone could check the results, it's not misleading when anyone can double check what I say.

For the wow RTX analysis you did mislead, I made a post how the AMD gpu beat the Nvidia gpu in 3 areas, 2 areas which has no randomness to it. I said AVERAGE FPS that amd gpu was clearly ahead in those areas where the youtuber walked the exact same path in those 3 areas. Than you started posting screenshots where both character look at exact same spot where nvidia wins.

When AMD was ahead in average fps in that timeframe the youtuber tested from my analysis than I posted links so anyone could check. 



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Beaten Sigrun on God of war mode

Beaten DOOM ultra-nightmare with NO endless ammo-rune, 2x super shotgun and no decoys on ps4 pro.

1-0 against Grubby in Wc3 frozen throne ladder!!

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Trumpstyle said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Seriously? PS5 has settings that runs lower than low on PC which skews the results. Even Alex says this in his video Multiple Times. It's not about whether or not it runs at max settings, it's about the ps5 running the game at settings that's lower than low on PC which gives the ps5 an advantage which is Stated both in the video and in the article. Your WoW RTX analysis was complete nonsense because you cherry picked your screenshots without any understanding as to why it was getting those frames.

And in your original post, you said:

"The prophecy will become true, it's just a matter of time. RDNA2 will beat Ampere in RTX performance."

And you posted a screenshot without stating why it was running at those frames. That's literately miss leading lmao...

It doesn't run lower than lowest settings, except 1 which I mention, special effects, give me quotes from article or timestamp in the video if you claiming otherwise, what you don't mention is that PS5 is running higher than ultra shadows (highest settings on pc) in 1 map.

I'm posting digitalfoundries results. Anyone would recognise instantly from that screenshot that it was from digitalfoundry, so anyone could check the result. For the WOW rtx analysis I gave links so again anyone could check the results, it's not misleading when anyone can double check what I say.

For the wow RTX analysis you did mislead, I made a post how the AMD gpu beat the Nvidia gpu in 3 areas, 2 areas which has no randomness to it. I said AVERAGE FPS that amd gpu was clearly ahead in those areas where the youtuber walked the exact same path in those 3 areas. Than you started posting screenshots where both character look at exact same spot where nvidia wins.

When AMD was ahead in average fps in that timeframe the youtuber tested from my analysis than I posted links so anyone could check. 

It's like you haven't watched the video lmao

Go to 14:38

It doesn't run every setting lower than low on PC which isn't what I claimed. I said "PS5 has settings that runs lower than low on PC which skews the results." I Didn't say Every Setting on PS5 is lower than PC. Alex in his video legit says because Ps5 has settings that's lower than low on PC, it is why PC is under performing in comparison... Idk what other proof you need?

You posted a miss leading screenshot. There are plenty of screenshots which you could have posted that aren't miss leading yet you choose to put the one that actually is miss leading... You could have posted this screenshot or actually read the article and posted the caveats but instead, you choose to miss lead people...

Wow is a game about randomness because it's an MMO and because the youtuber that had no intention of creating directly comparable videos had areas where there were far more people on Nvidia's side than on AMD's side that caused the fps on Nvidia's side to appear lower because of the randomness of MMO servers... It was again... Skewed... And yes, anyone could check them... Like I did and proved your analysis was nonsense...



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

It's like you haven't watched the video lmao

Go to 14:38

It doesn't run every setting lower than low on PC which isn't what I claimed. I said "PS5 has settings that runs lower than low on PC which skews the results." I Didn't say Every Setting on PS5 is lower than PC. Alex in his video legit says because Ps5 has settings that's lower than low on PC, it is why PC is under performing in comparison... Idk what other proof you need?

You posted a miss leading screenshot. There are plenty of screenshots which you could have posted that aren't miss leading yet you choose to put the one that actually is miss leading... You could have posted this screenshot or actually read the article and posted the caveats but instead, you choose to miss lead people...

Wow is a game about randomness because it's an MMO and because the youtuber that had no intention of creating directly comparable videos had areas where there were far more people on Nvidia's side than on AMD's side that caused the fps on Nvidia's side to appear lower because of the randomness of MMO servers... It was again... Skewed... And yes, anyone could check them... Like I did and proved your analysis was nonsense...

Dude I just made a fun post and you go all serious on a gaming site.

Give me a timestamp between 00:00 / 11:00 on what setting, at 14:38 he only says something vague, I have watched the video twice.

For WOW I said 2 of the areas has no randomness as there is no players there, Suramar where noone goes anymore and the Garrison in the expansion warlords of dreanor, no player can visit you there.

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Last edited by CGI-Quality - on 19 January 2021

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Beaten Sigrun on God of war mode

Beaten DOOM ultra-nightmare with NO endless ammo-rune, 2x super shotgun and no decoys on ps4 pro.

1-0 against Grubby in Wc3 frozen throne ladder!!

Trumpstyle said:
Captain_Yuri said:

It's like you haven't watched the video lmao

Go to 14:38

It doesn't run every setting lower than low on PC which isn't what I claimed. I said "PS5 has settings that runs lower than low on PC which skews the results." I Didn't say Every Setting on PS5 is lower than PC. Alex in his video legit says because Ps5 has settings that's lower than low on PC, it is why PC is under performing in comparison... Idk what other proof you need?

You posted a miss leading screenshot. There are plenty of screenshots which you could have posted that aren't miss leading yet you choose to put the one that actually is miss leading... You could have posted this screenshot or actually read the article and posted the caveats but instead, you choose to miss lead people...

Wow is a game about randomness because it's an MMO and because the youtuber that had no intention of creating directly comparable videos had areas where there were far more people on Nvidia's side than on AMD's side that caused the fps on Nvidia's side to appear lower because of the randomness of MMO servers... It was again... Skewed... And yes, anyone could check them... Like I did and proved your analysis was nonsense...

Dude I just made a fun post and you go all serious on a gaming site.

Give me a timestamp between 00:00 / 11:00 on what setting, at 14:38 he only says something vague, I have watched the video twice.

For WOW I said 2 of the areas has no randomness as there is no players there, Suramar where noone goes anymore and the Garrison in the expansion warlords of dreanor, no player can visit you there.

If that's what you call a miss leading post lmao!

Oh so now you are going to intentionally ignore the reason why the ps5 is performing so well against PC? Seriously? 

Maybe you should watch the video a third time. And really concentrate this time...

Here's an idea, how about instead of doing nonsense analysis, you leave that up to digital foundry... Then again, I suppose you would cherry pick miss leading screenshots even on DF's analysis.

Maybe it's about time you get a new Style as Trump's Style is so 2020



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:
Trumpstyle said:

Dude I just made a fun post and you go all serious on a gaming site.

Give me a timestamp between 00:00 / 11:00 on what setting, at 14:38 he only says something vague, I have watched the video twice.

For WOW I said 2 of the areas has no randomness as there is no players there, Suramar where noone goes anymore and the Garrison in the expansion warlords of dreanor, no player can visit you there.

If that's what you call a miss leading post lmao!

Maybe it's about time you get a new Style as Trump's Style is so 2020

I can't tell if you trolling me or not, but let's just ignore the PS5 and focus on the PC result.

"while RTX 3070 is just 8.6 per cent faster....  RX 6800 XT's result to be off-pace, yet it delivered just 29.4 per cent of extra performance."

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-call-of-duty-black-ops-cold-war-pc-vs-ps5

This put the 6800xt around ~19% faster than geforce 3070, which is almost equal in the rtx performance. Ampere has 5% rtx performance advantage here if my math is correct and based on gaming benchmark from techpowerup (4k resolution).



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Beaten Sigrun on God of war mode

Beaten DOOM ultra-nightmare with NO endless ammo-rune, 2x super shotgun and no decoys on ps4 pro.

1-0 against Grubby in Wc3 frozen throne ladder!!

Trumpstyle said:

Dude I just made a fun post and you go all serious on a gaming site.

I can't speak for the others but I can speak for myself, and I say none of your recent posts here have been either fun or funny.