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Alright, we finally got something when it comes to RDNA 2 and Ray Tracing and the RDNA 2 test is directly from AMD. It's not a game benchmark however and it is using an old driver so be aware of that.



"This means that GeForce RTX 3080 is around 33% faster than Radeon RX 6800 XT in this particular benchmark."

"The stock GeForce RTX 3090 has a framerate of 749, according to the screenshot posted by Hassan Mujtaba (Wccftech). This means that RTX 3090 is 59% faster than AMD RX 6800XT in this DXR test."

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ray-accelerator-appear-to-be-slower-than-nvidia-rt-core-in-this-dxr-ray-tracing-benchmark

It does line up with other leaks where the RT performance seemed kinda poor compared to it's raster performance. It would also explain why they didn't show anything regarding Ray Tracing performance in the presentation.



                  

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green_sky said:
Cyran said:

If compute Units/streaming processes any indication

PS5 = 36cu

Xbox series x = 52cu

6800 = 60cu

6800xt - 72cu

6900 = 80cu

Is Ps5 really that weak? That's like 2 wii u's duck tape together. No?

Doesn't work like that.
Otherwise the PS5 is just two Playstation 4 consoles. (36 > 18 CU's.)

Or in more lamens terms... The PS5's 36CU is inferior to 2013's Radeon R9 290 with 40 CU's... And that just isn't the case.
Just like flops, CU's isn't comparable between one chip and another.

You *can* have a 36 CU GPU offer 50% more performance than another 36CU GPU.

It does mean the Series X and Playstation 5 are mid-range in terms of GPU capability... But that was always going to happen.




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Captain_Yuri said:
The presentation solidifies my 3080 purchase. No word on RT or DLSS means that it's a no go for me, specially when Raster is so close on Cherry picked benchmarks.

Yeah, their hesitation pretty much seems sus, and makes it sound like they are gonna be crap in those areas, or nowhere near Nvidia's level, so I guess I'm still on the 2080/ti track for now.

I'll still wait for reviews, but I don't think AMD are gonna do great at RT/whatever their DLSS is. 



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Little Youtube roundup of the RX 6000 reveal:

Linus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUioPsLRKA

JayC 2 Cents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLZUDfT4iPs

Hardware Unboxed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uXhNmaaooM

Gamer's Nexus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAPtu06eYI

Moore's Law:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuJfP_GPiOs

You're welcome!



Captain_Yuri said:

Alright, we finally got something when it comes to RDNA 2 and Ray Tracing and the RDNA 2 test is directly from AMD. It's not a game benchmark however and it is using an old driver so be aware of that.



"This means that GeForce RTX 3080 is around 33% faster than Radeon RX 6800 XT in this particular benchmark."

"The stock GeForce RTX 3090 has a framerate of 749, according to the screenshot posted by Hassan Mujtaba (Wccftech). This means that RTX 3090 is 59% faster than AMD RX 6800XT in this DXR test."

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ray-accelerator-appear-to-be-slower-than-nvidia-rt-core-in-this-dxr-ray-tracing-benchmark

It does line up with other leaks where the RT performance seemed kinda poor compared to it's raster performance. It would also explain why they didn't show anything regarding Ray Tracing performance in the presentation.

Thanks for sharing. To be honest, I don't think anyone (well, maybe Trumpstyle) expects AMD to match or beat Nvidia in ray tracing not only because it's their first serious try at it but also because if they did, they would have mentioned it during yesterday's conference.

That said, there are some things worth keeping in mind to get the bigger picture:

  • We don't know which setting were used during the AMD test. We know that the 3080 and 3090 were tested at default, and it makes sense that AMD also used the same settings, but it's not guaranteed. We'll have to wait until reviews to know for sure.
  • That test was done in August. In these two months AMD has had time to improve the software to increase performance and, once it launches and they're able to collect more data from its customers, they'll keep improving it.
  • At Guru3D they also tried that benchmark with a 3070 and the result is 475fps, only 4 more than the AMD card. This means that, while Navi 21 is not spectacular at ray tracing, it's far from being bad at it.

There's also the question of which Navi 21 card was used for that test but, as I said, if AMD were on par or better than Nvidia at RT, they would have shown it yesterday to deliver a final and deadly blow to Ampere.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Little Youtube roundup of the RX 6000 reveal:

*snip*

You're welcome!

Thanks for the round-up, and for also adding the links.



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3070 availability is as low as 3080 it seems in Canadia. Demand prob even higher. Just bring the 4060 or 5050 Ti already.



green_sky said:
3070 availability is as low as 3080 it seems in Canadia. Demand prob even higher. Just bring the 4060 or 5050 Ti already.

I couldn't even find a 3070 at any e-retailer in Germany. Not even in the search engine. The 3080 and 3090 cards at least show up with a "unknown delivery time" mention, but no 3070 at all.



So I tried my luck securing a 3070 FE and no luck.

Last edited by hinch - on 29 October 2020

Not even going to try the AiB, too expensive. What a farce.



JEMC said:

Thanks for sharing. To be honest, I don't think anyone (well, maybe Trumpstyle) expects AMD to match or beat Nvidia in ray tracing not only because it's their first serious try at it but also because if they did, they would have mentioned it during yesterday's conference.

Patience dude, it was benchmarks like this I didn't believe redgamingtech source. His source was probably getting it from a benchmark like this, these benchmarks are old and designed for Turing. I'm still waiting for watch dogs legion, the new call of duty and spiderman remastered to get a clue for the rtx performance, these games should be optimized for PS5. My numbers are still the same.



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