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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 23 August 2020
JEMC said:
Looks like you're really enjoying the game, Yuri.

And looks like Nvidia's rumored special power connector is actually real. I wonder how much those ar going to cost. It also makes me wonder how bad the power consumption of the new cards will be. With the special cooler and power cable, it looks like Nvidia's new cards could be real powe hogs and run hot.

Wouldn't it be ridiculous if, after so many years, AMD ended with a more efficient architecture even if it doesn't reach the peformance as Nvidia's new cards? Will power consumption and efficiency remain important if Nvidia is on the losing side or will the statement change again to the only thing that matters is the performance?

Yea it is a pretty nice game mainly due to how good the visuals are. There isn't really much in terms of gameplay other than taking off, flying to somewhere and then landing. The screenshot is from reddit though and not from me personally but it's not hard to get shots like that as you have a lot of control over the game. The only problem is landing in a populated city where it tanks your framerate, specially in stormy weather with a boeing.

AMD certainly has the ability to have an edge on efficiency because TSMC's 7nm is better than Samsung's 8nm. But I think that AMD will be pushing it's RDNA 2 clocks very high to keep up with Nvidia who will also push their clocks very high. Personally I think both are gonna have crazy power consumption numbers.

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JEMC on 23 August 2020
Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:
Looks like you're really enjoying the game, Yuri.

And looks like Nvidia's rumored special power connector is actually real. I wonder how much those ar going to cost. It also makes me wonder how bad the power consumption of the new cards will be. With the special cooler and power cable, it looks like Nvidia's new cards could be real powe hogs and run hot.

Wouldn't it be ridiculous if, after so many years, AMD ended with a more efficient architecture even if it doesn't reach the peformance as Nvidia's new cards? Will power consumption and efficiency remain important if Nvidia is on the losing side or will the statement change again to the only thing that matters is the performance?

Yea it is a pretty nice game mainly due to how good the visuals are. There isn't really much in terms of gameplay other than taking off, flying to somewhere and then landing. The screenshot is from reddit though and not from me personally but it's not hard to get shots like that as you have a lot of control over the game. The only problem is landing in a populated city where it tanks your framerate, specially in stormy weather with a boeing.

AMD certainly has the ability to have an edge on efficiency because TSMC's 7nm is better than Samsung's 8nm. But I think that AMD will be pushing it's RDNA 2 clocks very high to keep up with Nvidia who will also push their clocks very high. Personally I think both are gonna have crazy power consumption numbers.

Then do it with an Airbus. After all. they're better .

And yeah, I'm affraid both will try to squeeze their chips as much as possible even if that means loads of power and no room for overcloking.



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Zkuq on 23 August 2020
kirby007 said:
JEMC said:
Looks like you're really enjoying the game, Yuri.

And looks like Nvidia's rumored special power connector is actually real. I wonder how much those ar going to cost. It also makes me wonder how bad the power consumption of the new cards will be. With the special cooler and power cable, it looks like Nvidia's new cards could be real powe hogs and run hot.

Wouldn't it be ridiculous if, after so many years, AMD ended with a more efficient architecture even if it doesn't reach the peformance as Nvidia's new cards? Will power consumption and efficiency remain important if Nvidia is on the losing side or will the statement change again to the only thing that matters is the performance?

i never heard someone say that they care about consumption

I care, but it's mostly because when I got my PSU, I got the cheapeast quality one I could find for the PC I got because I had a fairly limited budget. I also don't want to have to upgrade my PSU once I decide to upgrade my GPU, so power consumption does actually play a part for me.



kirby007 on 23 August 2020

ehh point taken :) being playing with a 700w psu ever since the radeon4800 and that was the first lesson my cousin who was a real geek taught me



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Bofferbrauer2 on 23 August 2020
kirby007 said:
JEMC said:
Looks like you're really enjoying the game, Yuri.

And looks like Nvidia's rumored special power connector is actually real. I wonder how much those ar going to cost. It also makes me wonder how bad the power consumption of the new cards will be. With the special cooler and power cable, it looks like Nvidia's new cards could be real powe hogs and run hot.

Wouldn't it be ridiculous if, after so many years, AMD ended with a more efficient architecture even if it doesn't reach the peformance as Nvidia's new cards? Will power consumption and efficiency remain important if Nvidia is on the losing side or will the statement change again to the only thing that matters is the performance?

i never heard someone say that they care about consumption

Hey, I undervolted my CPUs in the past to limit consumption. And I know a lot more people doing so.

JEMC said:
kirby007 said:

i never heard someone say that they care about consumption

We visit different forums.

Back during the HD 7970 vs GTX 680, and specially once Nvidia launched Maxwell and drastically reduced the power consumption of their cards, it was a theme I read a lot of times in forums. After all, with lower power consumption comes lower heat, netter thermals that keep the card at higher clocks, more chances of getting a higher overclock, and things like that.

Was even worse with the 580. Remember all those Fermi Thermi jokes? Good times...

Spoiler!
For those who missed those times, AMD wasn't much more efficient with their 6970 vs the 580 - but the 580 generally hit 90ºC while it's Radeon counterpart stayed below 80ºC. Did I mention that the 6970 was sold at $250 while the Thermi was almost $400?
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JEMC on 23 August 2020
Bofferbrauer2 said:
kirby007 said:

i never heard someone say that they care about consumption

Hey, I undervolted my CPUs in the past to limit consumption. And I know a lot more people doing so.

JEMC said:

We visit different forums.

Back during the HD 7970 vs GTX 680, and specially once Nvidia launched Maxwell and drastically reduced the power consumption of their cards, it was a theme I read a lot of times in forums. After all, with lower power consumption comes lower heat, netter thermals that keep the card at higher clocks, more chances of getting a higher overclock, and things like that.

Was even worse with the 580. Remember all those Fermi Thermi jokes? Good times...

Spoiler!
For those who missed those times, AMD wasn't much more efficient with their 6970 vs the 580 - but the 580 generally hit 90ºC while it's Radeon counterpart stayed below 80ºC. Did I mention that the 6970 was sold at $250 while the Thermi was almost $400?

Oh, yes. And the 580 was a big improvement over the awful GTX 480, with some even posting pics of their smoking cards.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

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Bofferbrauer2 on 23 August 2020
JEMC said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Hey, I undervolted my CPUs in the past to limit consumption. And I know a lot more people doing so.

Was even worse with the 580. Remember all those Fermi Thermi jokes? Good times...

Spoiler!
For those who missed those times, AMD wasn't much more efficient with their 6970 vs the 580 - but the 580 generally hit 90ºC while it's Radeon counterpart stayed below 80ºC. Did I mention that the 6970 was sold at $250 while the Thermi was almost $400?

Oh, yes. And the 580 was a big improvement over the awful GTX 480, with some even posting pics of their smoking cards.

Lol I actually meant the 480 in the first place, didn't check what I was typing...



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The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/

JEMC on 23 August 2020
Bofferbrauer2 said:
JEMC said:

Oh, yes. And the 580 was a big improvement over the awful GTX 480, with some even posting pics of their smoking cards.

Lol I actually meant the 480 in the first place, didn't check what I was typing...

Well, both were Fermi so...



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JEMC on 24 August 2020

Guys, I think this pic explains why Nvidia wants that new power connector:



Please excuse my bad English.

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vivster on 24 August 2020

It's time for a PSU evolution anyway. Recently saw a video on LTT about a PSU that only delivers 12V over special connectors and leaves the conversion for other stuff for the mainboard. Seems to be pretty good for efficiency. Would be cool to just have one 12pin connector that could power every GPU.



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