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the ps4 appears to be more powerful than the xbox One, than the ps3 was to the xbox 360. and instead of costing $100-$300 more, the ps4 cost $100 less.

and besides ive yet to see games like Uncharted 2 and 3, Killzone 3, God of War 3 and Assension, and The Last of Us be able to be made on other consoles.



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gigantor21 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Yes, it does have extra power for no reason, but it's not quite like the PS3 because they were able to keep costs in line. Still, if they were wise they would have made it a little weaker and sold it a little cheaper and/or banked the extra cash.

Is it really that big a deal when it's already $100 cheaper than the Xone? 

Costs will come down over time. And that extra power will help make the system more future proof. Without the crazy complications of the Cell this time, I think this approach is better long-term.


If you owned a company and could make an extra $50-$100 per unit on a product that you expect to sell 100 million units of, would you consider it a big deal?

If you were a consumer, and you had 3 product options offering similar experiences, but one was the cheapest, which would you buy?

The answers to those questions should tell you if it is a big deal.



Heavenly_King said:

The difference in raw power this upcoming gen; is bigger than the difference between the PS3-X360. So I think that as the generation goes PS4 first party titles will look better than XBO titles (similar to the case of PS3 and 360; but the difference will be even bigger down the road); and that multiplats will run better on the PS4; like better AA, better framerate, better textures.

And it is even better considering it cost $100 less.


Yes, I agree with you. Last time we have complicated architecture with PS3 so developers couldn't ble able to squeeze more out of it at the beginning and also the difference was less when compared to this time. Also the architecture which PS4 uses is developer friendly so we can see more differences between PS4 and Xbone this time, especially better gameplay(with AI, Physics) and visuals this time in PS4. I think we can see some innovations from Sony studios in new IP's and a great story telling games which will be matching Hollywood Movies in a interactive and adventurous journey which we dreamt of.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

TheLastStarFighter said:
gigantor21 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Yes, it does have extra power for no reason, but it's not quite like the PS3 because they were able to keep costs in line. Still, if they were wise they would have made it a little weaker and sold it a little cheaper and/or banked the extra cash.

Is it really that big a deal when it's already $100 cheaper than the Xone? 

Costs will come down over time. And that extra power will help make the system more future proof. Without the crazy complications of the Cell this time, I think this approach is better long-term.


If you owned a company and could make an extra $50-$100 per unit on a product that you expect to sell 100 million units of, would you consider it a big deal?

If you were a consumer, and you had 3 product options offering similar experiences, but one was the cheapest, which would you buy?

The answers to those questions should tell you if it is a big deal.

That's predicated on the assumption that you KNOW that it'll still sell 100 million units if it's no different in performance to the Xone to begin with. And considering that the bulk of the games sold on both platforms will be multiplats regardless, that kind of thinking isn't any less of a gamble IMO.



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gigantor21 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
gigantor21 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Yes, it does have extra power for no reason, but it's not quite like the PS3 because they were able to keep costs in line. Still, if they were wise they would have made it a little weaker and sold it a little cheaper and/or banked the extra cash.

Is it really that big a deal when it's already $100 cheaper than the Xone? 

Costs will come down over time. And that extra power will help make the system more future proof. Without the crazy complications of the Cell this time, I think this approach is better long-term.


If you owned a company and could make an extra $50-$100 per unit on a product that you expect to sell 100 million units of, would you consider it a big deal?

If you were a consumer, and you had 3 product options offering similar experiences, but one was the cheapest, which would you buy?

The answers to those questions should tell you if it is a big deal.

That's predicated on the assumption that you KNOW that it'll still sell 100 million units if it's no different in performance to the Xone to begin with. And considering that the bulk of the games sold on both platforms will be multiplats regardless, that kind of thinking isn't any less of a gamble IMO.

But since the bulk are multiplats, the power won't matter.  But no matter what the end sales totals are, the extra profit per unit is massive.



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Powerful systems rarely win the generation (they're too expensive, and that does get passed on to the consumer eventually) but they rarely do poorly, either. It's a safe bet.



TheLastStarFighter said:
gigantor21 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
gigantor21 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Yes, it does have extra power for no reason, but it's not quite like the PS3 because they were able to keep costs in line. Still, if they were wise they would have made it a little weaker and sold it a little cheaper and/or banked the extra cash.

Is it really that big a deal when it's already $100 cheaper than the Xone? 

Costs will come down over time. And that extra power will help make the system more future proof. Without the crazy complications of the Cell this time, I think this approach is better long-term.


If you owned a company and could make an extra $50-$100 per unit on a product that you expect to sell 100 million units of, would you consider it a big deal?

If you were a consumer, and you had 3 product options offering similar experiences, but one was the cheapest, which would you buy?

The answers to those questions should tell you if it is a big deal.

That's predicated on the assumption that you KNOW that it'll still sell 100 million units if it's no different in performance to the Xone to begin with. And considering that the bulk of the games sold on both platforms will be multiplats regardless, that kind of thinking isn't any less of a gamble IMO.

But since the bulk are multiplats, the power won't matter.  But no matter what the end sales totals are, the extra profit per unit is massive.

And because most of the games sold will be multiplats, exclusives will become a far more important selling point. Having more powerful hardware for less will be a much better selling point in light of that, as it will allow devs to really get more out of the PS4 on it's own. That puts the PS4 in a good position in both the short term and the long term.

Beyond that...for me personally, I don't want Sony to just play it safe if they can offer more power in a developer-friendly box. Simply doing one over the other in terms of power vs. dev accessibility hobbled them badly this generation; it took years for even the first party devs to really dig into the Cell and get the most out of it. This gen, Sony is offering much better hardware that's still very similar to what the Xone is running for $100 less. I really want to see what devs do with that.



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biglittlesps said:

They want future proof systems. This is why sony systems stays for longer period and get support becoz it has still power to deliver games for longer time.

DucksUnlimited said

50% more powerful doesn't sound impressive to the average person? You don't need to know anything about technology to realize that when something is 50% better than something else, it's a big difference.

hsrob said:

  Naughty Dog and Santa Monica studios are going to produce close to the best looking games on the market regardless of which hardware you give them so I don't know that Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 are alone a good enough argument for needing to have more powerful hardware.

Turkish said:

HAHAHAHAHAHA, yes they would. You only had to show him Uncharted 3, Last of Us, God of War and Killzone.

Mvp4eVa said: 

Even though multi plat games will be on par on both system, the XBONE version will take extra time (optimization) to equaly match the same game on the PS4 ...  The extra power and ease to program for would make the PS4 the lead platform..  IMO.

 

Porcupine_I said:
If they can make it more powerful at lower cost? Why NOT do it

Ajescent said:

I think Sony made the smart choice of trying new things with the DS4, X1 doesn't seem to do anything unique, yes it has the menu and view buttons but the DS4 offers much more opportunities for game functionality. I'm really looking forward to PS4 exclusives who can use the controller to its full potential.

TheLastStarFighter said:
Yes, it does have extra power for no reason, but it's not quite like the PS3 because they were able to keep costs in line. Still, if they were wise they would have made it a little weaker and sold it a little cheaper and/or banked the extra cash.

@BigLittle: I don't know if that's true because PS2 was the weakest of the remaing consoles and had support for years. It was market leader but still power had nothing to do with it.

@Ducks: Yes, people will understand when somebody says something is 50% better. Though, more power doesn't always equal better. Besides, most consumers won't even know it is 50% more powerful. They will judge the system based on many things, mainly games & price. Power will be an afterthought.

@hsrob: That's what I was trying to explain, will a few games taking advantage of the bit of extra power really be worth it?

@Turkish: I don't think many will. The fact that the answer to which is more powerful isn't obvious says something. Besides, was the small graphic advantage for less than 5 games really worth having? (from a business perspective)

@Mvp4: To developers, yes. How does that benefit consumers though? I highly doubt developers will start making PS4 exclusives because it's easier to develop for.

@Porcupine: It is lower in cost because XB1 comes with Kinect and other extra features. Sony could be using the $ for something else so that answers your question to "why not?"

@Ajescent: I agree, the controller is much more important that a little extra power that only the most core will likely care about. DS4 does look very nice indeed.

@TLSF: That's what I was thinking. The money could've been used better IMO.