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Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Yes....Sony definitely did it for themselves. 

Blu Ray Association members.

I'm sorry, Sony did it to benefit themselves and their Bluray parnets.

Not for consumers wallets.


Fair is fair, you still agreed.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sony was right about their format choice in the end, correct? The format might as well hold more space rather than sticking with old DVD's. We're getting closer and closer to a no disc format, and MS had no plans for HD-DVD except to use it as a deterent for Blu Ray this gen. Fail.

No, Sony wasn't right. The Nintendo Wii outsold the PS3 and the 360 is dead even with it, neither of which use high capacity formats. They could have waited until this gen like Nintendo and MS did, had a much much cheaper PS3 console, launched earlier, and probably won the generation. But they wanted their Blu-Ray trojan horse, gamers be damned.

Also, link to the statements from MS saying they had no HD-DVD plans past this generation?



Mr Puggsly said:
Zero999 said:

las gen hardware (X360) is in the range of 99-150 dollars at a profit. Wii U is 299 breaking even.

Bold part is a presumption.

If it was accurate I'd imagine the Wii U is far more profitable than "breaking even."

it was taking a loss at launch, if it is profitable now then it's a very small profit. Also, the bolded part isn't presumption.



crissindahouse said:
as long as nobody shall get a second job.


I see what you did there. Kaz was a dick for saying that. If you agree can I get a RIDDDDDDDDDDDGGEEEEE RACCERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!?



J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sony was right about their format choice in the end, correct? The format might as well hold more space rather than sticking with old DVD's. We're getting closer and closer to a no disc format, and MS had no plans for HD-DVD except to use it as a deterent for Blu Ray this gen. Fail.

No, Sony wasn't right. The Nintendo Wii outsold the PS3 and the 360 is dead even with it, neither of which use high capacity formats. They could have waited until this gen like Nintendo and MS did, had a much much cheaper PS3 console, launched earlier, and probably won the generation. But they wanted their Blu-Ray trojan horse, gamers be damned.

Also, link to the statements from MS saying they had no HD-DVD plans past this generation?

Fine, Sony wasn't right, MS turned on their word and accepted Blu Ray. MS is moving up in the world.

As for HD-DVD I never said they had no plans for it, I said they used it as a deterrent but no one wants to buy an add on. It was never in their true plan for the console. They tried to take out Sonys next gen format and failed.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
crissindahouse said:
as long as nobody shall get a second job.


I see what you did there. Kaz was a dick for saying that. If you agree can I get a RIDDDDDDDDDDDGGEEEEE RACCERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!?

Ken Kutaragi said that, not Kaz.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Sony was right about their format choice in the end, correct? The format might as well hold more space rather than sticking with old DVD's. We're getting closer and closer to a no disc format, and MS had no plans for HD-DVD except to use it as a deterent for Blu Ray this gen. Fail.

No, Sony wasn't right. The Nintendo Wii outsold the PS3 and the 360 is dead even with it, neither of which use high capacity formats. They could have waited until this gen like Nintendo and MS did, had a much much cheaper PS3 console, launched earlier, and probably won the generation. But they wanted their Blu-Ray trojan horse, gamers be damned.

Also, link to the statements from MS saying they had no HD-DVD plans past this generation?

Fine, Sony wasn't right, MS turned on their word and accepted Blu Ray. MS is moving up in the world.

No loyalty free links?



Deyon said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
crissindahouse said:
as long as nobody shall get a second job.


I see what you did there. Kaz was a dick for saying that. If you agree can I get a RIDDDDDDDDDDDGGEEEEE RACCERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!?

Ken Kutaragi said that, not Kaz.

It was Kaz who unveiled the price. Kutaragi just showed off the console and explained the ergonomics.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Deyon said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
crissindahouse said:
as long as nobody shall get a second job.


I see what you did there. Kaz was a dick for saying that. If you agree can I get a RIDDDDDDDDDDDGGEEEEE RACCERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!?

Ken Kutaragi said that, not Kaz.

It was Kaz who unveiled the price. Kutaragi just showed off the console and explained the ergonomics.

Oh..I thought you were talking about the "get a second job" quote.



J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:

Fine, Sony wasn't right, MS turned on their word and accepted Blu Ray. MS is moving up in the world.

No loyalty free links?

Loyalty free! :)

Microsoft doesn't need Blu Ray:

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2010/03/13/xbox_360_doesn_t_need_blu_ray_says_microsoft

Why MS turned down Blu Ray:

http://hothardware.com/News/Why-There-Is-No-BluRay-For-The-Xbox-360/

Will the Durango have Blu Ray?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416276,00.asp

Five years after HD-DVD's failure Microsoft adopts Blu Ray:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4351416/xbox-one-blu-ray-drive

 

180!!!