I'll get bigger and bigger til I burst... like the PS3's RAM trying to load X. Zing! :p

don't put me in the same category as him.

Right.  And the fact the game engine is developed around a 3.2 Ghz CPU and is trying to operate on a 1.2 Ghz CPU has absolutely nothing to do with that.  It's all the GPU's fault.

http://www.gamespot.com/features/xbox-vs-xbox-360-do-you-really-need-hd-6140621/

You were saying?

I have a feeling those "who can be trusted" are the ones whose projections fit your views.

And multiplatform games won't be any confirmation. You need a game to be optimised for the hardware to show its real capabilities.

or simple logic. if wii u at it's minimum does clearly better than the most being squeezed out of a 240 gflop machine, how can anyone seriously expect such low flopage numbers. 176 gflops is beyond the level of delusion.

Not sure about that, 320 shaders seems more plausible actually.

One way or the other:

"By way of explanation, DICE technical director Johan Andersson claimed via Twitter that "FB3 has never been running on Wii U. We did some tests with not too promising results with FB2 and chose not to go down that path." Would EA now have the same technical problems with Frostbite on Wii U had the console been selling like hot cakes? Or was EA simply eyeing a less-than-spectacular return on Wii U releases? "It's both," Patrick Bach, executive producer of Battlefield at DICE told Eurogamer."

"If the Wii U was immensely popular we would probably put more focus into seeing how we could mitigate this, because it is a technical problem," Bach said. "It is a technical problem at its core because the Frostbite engine is not designed to run on that hardware, and the hardware is quite different from the next-gen consoles and the previous gen consoles."

But the Wii U is at least as powerful as current generation consoles and Frostbite 3 is designed to be scalable - we'll see current-gen versions of Battlefield 4, for example. With Frostbite 2 appearing to work on Wii U fine, does the argument about having technical difficulties really still stand up?

"From our perspective it's not as powerful as it should be to be able to run a Battlefield game," Bach responded. "Straight out of the box, as in Frostbite 3, it doesn't run that well on the Wii U, which means it takes a lot of time and energy from us that would then take from something else.

"So, we made the decision to say, no, let's not take away the focus from the PlayStations and the Xboxes and the PCs to do this. At the end of the day it's about focus and priorities. If we could press a button to move it over to Wii U, of course we could make a Wii U SKU, but it would take some substantial time to do it. I know some fans get very upset when we say that, but it's true. There's a reason why not all games are on the Wii U platform."

This pretty nicely explains dev's viewpoint of whole situation - WiiU is just in that terrible spot where it's not powerful enough for them to make ports easily, no matter the user base, AND it has small user base. If any of those two were absent, there would be much less problems in 3rd party support.

Some (maybe most) people here see me as Sony fan, but in all honesty, I was actually really bummed when it turned out that those old rumours of 4850 level GPU inside WiiU were not true - it would actually made WiiU 1/2x XOne and 1/3x PS4,and that would make porting next-gen titles alot easier. I need to get WiiU eventually for Zelda and MK8, but I would be way more happier if it had better innards, allowing for better 3rd party support (3rd parties are, no matter the platform, something I care most about).

mhz doesn't mean much, it's just hat ports are ports. unless real work is put to make everything better, it will be just like the original. just like the original resident evil getting ported to ps360, it didn't magically start looking like resident evil 6, did it? the same game with resolution change. and then you have haters complaining that a game that wasn't developed for wii u in the first place doesn't show it's full potencial.

butbutbutbut some idiot called Fourth Storm on NeoGaF is totally convinced  errrhhh....it is widely known fact that the WiiU can´t even....176 GFLOPS....... RED DEAD REDEMPTION LOOKS FAR SUPERIOR !!!1!!one!!

I was referring to why some ports had reduced performance.   I probably should have left part of his post in for clarification in that regard.