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cablebox on 26 June 2013
Viper1 said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
g911turbo said:

I think a few people on these forums suffer from these two things *cough* Ninjablade *cough*.  I'm sure there are some more formal pyschological terms, but they escape me at the moment so I'll just describe them in lamens terms.

1.       You (Wii U) can't even compare to my worst (360, PS3), how dare you try to consider yourself comparable to my best (PS4,X1) attitude.  By artificially placing the wall of comparison further back (360,PS3), they feel it protects the integrity and greatness of that which they prefer (PS4,X1).  I could provide an example here but I think this is pretty self explanatory.

 

2.       Moving goal posts.  You can NEVER win.  You’re weaker than current systems.  Later on, you’re on par with current systems.  Later, you’re BARELY more powerful than current system.  You could prove tomorrow (official announcement lets say) that the Wii U is 600 ish GFLOPS.  Certain people on here would say “Yeah, but you cannot notice a difference between that and the 360, it’s not enough.  In order to notice the difference in graphics from last gen, you need about, 1.2 to 1.8 TFLOPS.”  Wow, how convenient!  Again, moving goal posts.  In many cases, point 2 ties in with point 1.


3 posts later....

cablebox said:

Yet not a single game look better than halo 4,





... excuse me, point me to that game that is superior to halo 4 plox, thk you good sir

I never said there was one.  I just found it highly coincidental that he stated the exact situation you posted and it took only 3 posts later to happen.



which part? the one about the X1 and the ps4 I didn't post about in this thread? or the part about me saying wii u is less powerful than current gen which I didn't, or on par which yet again I didn't. He pretty much post all possibilities what the hell were you expecting

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g911turbo on 26 June 2013
Viper1 said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
g911turbo said:

I think a few people on these forums suffer from these two things *cough* Ninjablade *cough*.  I'm sure there are some more formal pyschological terms, but they escape me at the moment so I'll just describe them in lamens terms.

1.       You (Wii U) can't even compare to my worst (360, PS3), how dare you try to consider yourself comparable to my best (PS4,X1) attitude.  By artificially placing the wall of comparison further back (360,PS3), they feel it protects the integrity and greatness of that which they prefer (PS4,X1).  I could provide an example here but I think this is pretty self explanatory.

 

2.       Moving goal posts.  You can NEVER win.  You’re weaker than current systems.  Later on, you’re on par with current systems.  Later, you’re BARELY more powerful than current system.  You could prove tomorrow (official announcement lets say) that the Wii U is 600 ish GFLOPS.  Certain people on here would say “Yeah, but you cannot notice a difference between that and the 360, it’s not enough.  In order to notice the difference in graphics from last gen, you need about, 1.2 to 1.8 TFLOPS.”  Wow, how convenient!  Again, moving goal posts.  In many cases, point 2 ties in with point 1.


3 posts later....

cablebox said:

Yet not a single game look better than halo 4,





... excuse me, point me to that game that is superior to halo 4 plox, thk you good sir

I never said there was one.  I just found it highly coincidental that he stated the exact situation you posted and it took only 3 posts later to happen.

To be fair, the psychological issues, errr points, 1 and 2 can be extended to biased remarks for any system.  Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo.  All are fair game for lack of reason.



g911turbo on 26 June 2013
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
g911turbo said:

I think a few people on these forums suffer from these two things *cough* Ninjablade *cough*.  I'm sure there are some more formal pyschological terms, but they escape me at the moment so I'll just describe them in lamens terms.

1.       You (Wii U) can't even compare to my worst (360, PS3), how dare you try to consider yourself comparable to my best (PS4,X1) attitude.  By artificially placing the wall of comparison further back (360,PS3), they feel it protects the integrity and greatness of that which they prefer (PS4,X1).  I could provide an example here but I think this is pretty self explanatory.

 

2.       Moving goal posts.  You can NEVER win.  You’re weaker than current systems.  Later on, you’re on par with current systems.  Later, you’re BARELY more powerful than current system.  You could prove tomorrow (official announcement lets say) that the Wii U is 600 ish GFLOPS.  Certain people on here would say “Yeah, but you cannot notice a difference between that and the 360, it’s not enough.  In order to notice the difference in graphics from last gen, you need about, 1.2 to 1.8 TFLOPS.”  Wow, how convenient!  Again, moving goal posts.  In many cases, point 2 ties in with point 1.


3 posts later....

cablebox said:

Yet not a single game look better than halo 4,





... excuse me, point me to that game that is superior to halo 4 plox, thk you good sir

I never said there was one.  I just found it highly coincidental that he stated the exact situation you posted and it took only 3 posts later to happen.


which part? the one about the X1 and the ps4 I didn't post about in this thread? or the part about me saying wii u is less powerful than current gen which I didn't, or on par which yet again I didn't. He pretty much post all possibilities what the hell were you expecting

LOL.  I think you missed the entire point of my post.

 

And for the record, Halo 4 looks like shit.



curl-6 on 26 June 2013
cablebox said:

link to the tweet please and I don't know about you but I take pr from the big 3 with a grain of salt they are known for bending the truth, I bet they didn't even use specifics in their PR but some vague wording that can be interpreted in many ways.

^ Confirms the cache amounts and the architecture.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hacker-exposes-the-nintendo-wii-u-s-cpu-and-gpu-clock-speeds

^  Quotes here confirm out of order execution and better IPC.

I too try to reman sceptical of PR, but they didn't really give any grandiose claims, they just mentioned it was a GPGPU. 



danasider on 26 June 2013
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
g911turbo said:

I think a few people on these forums suffer from these two things *cough* Ninjablade *cough*.  I'm sure there are some more formal pyschological terms, but they escape me at the moment so I'll just describe them in lamens terms.

1.       You (Wii U) can't even compare to my worst (360, PS3), how dare you try to consider yourself comparable to my best (PS4,X1) attitude.  By artificially placing the wall of comparison further back (360,PS3), they feel it protects the integrity and greatness of that which they prefer (PS4,X1).  I could provide an example here but I think this is pretty self explanatory.

 

2.       Moving goal posts.  You can NEVER win.  You’re weaker than current systems.  Later on, you’re on par with current systems.  Later, you’re BARELY more powerful than current system.  You could prove tomorrow (official announcement lets say) that the Wii U is 600 ish GFLOPS.  Certain people on here would say “Yeah, but you cannot notice a difference between that and the 360, it’s not enough.  In order to notice the difference in graphics from last gen, you need about, 1.2 to 1.8 TFLOPS.”  Wow, how convenient!  Again, moving goal posts.  In many cases, point 2 ties in with point 1.


3 posts later....

cablebox said:

Yet not a single game look better than halo 4,





... excuse me, point me to that game that is superior to halo 4 plox, thk you good sir

I never said there was one.  I just found it highly coincidental that he stated the exact situation you posted and it took only 3 posts later to happen.


which part? the one about the X1 and the ps4 I didn't post about in this thread? or the part about me saying wii u is less powerful than current gen which I didn't, or on par which yet again I didn't. He pretty much post all possibilities what the hell were you expecting


Lol even though I get g911Turbo's post (swaying arguments making it pretty much a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario for Wii U), Cablebox is right too.  If just about every argument is listed, how is he not going to post an example g911Turbo used?

If one poster did all of the arguments g911Turbo said people are doing that would make a good point that that poster is just hating because they are inconsistent and finding any way, even contradicting ways, to discredit Wii U.  But if one person uses one example which is pretty valid even though it's only an opinion (the point that nothing looks better on Wii U than Halo 4 automatically suggests that the 3 games listed in OP can indeed by done on PS360) how is he doing exactly what g911Turbo said?  How else is the argument supposed to be argued for someone who thinks Wii U is underpowered and the games listed can be done on current gen systems?



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cablebox on 26 June 2013
curl-6 said:
cablebox said:

link to the tweet please and I don't know about you but I take pr from the big 3 with a grain of salt they are known for bending the truth, I bet they didn't even use specifics in their PR but some vague wording that can be interpreted in many ways.

^ Confirms the cache amounts and the architecture.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hacker-exposes-the-nintendo-wii-u-s-cpu-and-gpu-clock-speeds

^  Quotes here confirm out of order execution and better IPC.

I too try to reman sceptical of PR, but they didn't really give any grandiose claims, they just mentioned it was a GPGPU. 

thx for the info, gonna look this up later gonna play some Civ IV for now peace



g911turbo on 26 June 2013
danasider said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
cablebox said:
Viper1 said:
g911turbo said:

I think a few people on these forums suffer from these two things *cough* Ninjablade *cough*.  I'm sure there are some more formal pyschological terms, but they escape me at the moment so I'll just describe them in lamens terms.

1.       You (Wii U) can't even compare to my worst (360, PS3), how dare you try to consider yourself comparable to my best (PS4,X1) attitude.  By artificially placing the wall of comparison further back (360,PS3), they feel it protects the integrity and greatness of that which they prefer (PS4,X1).  I could provide an example here but I think this is pretty self explanatory.

 

2.       Moving goal posts.  You can NEVER win.  You’re weaker than current systems.  Later on, you’re on par with current systems.  Later, you’re BARELY more powerful than current system.  You could prove tomorrow (official announcement lets say) that the Wii U is 600 ish GFLOPS.  Certain people on here would say “Yeah, but you cannot notice a difference between that and the 360, it’s not enough.  In order to notice the difference in graphics from last gen, you need about, 1.2 to 1.8 TFLOPS.”  Wow, how convenient!  Again, moving goal posts.  In many cases, point 2 ties in with point 1.


3 posts later....

cablebox said:

Yet not a single game look better than halo 4,





... excuse me, point me to that game that is superior to halo 4 plox, thk you good sir

I never said there was one.  I just found it highly coincidental that he stated the exact situation you posted and it took only 3 posts later to happen.


which part? the one about the X1 and the ps4 I didn't post about in this thread? or the part about me saying wii u is less powerful than current gen which I didn't, or on par which yet again I didn't. He pretty much post all possibilities what the hell were you expecting


Lol even though I get g911Turbo's post (swaying arguments making it pretty much a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario for Wii U), Cablebox is right too.  If just about every argument is listed, how is he not going to post an example g911Turbo used?

If one poster did all of the arguments g911Turbo said people are doing that would make a good point that that poster is just hating because they are inconsistent and finding any way, even contradicting ways, to discredit Wii U.  But if one person uses one example which is pretty valid even though it's only an opinion (the point that nothing looks better on Wii U than Halo 4 automatically suggests that the 3 games listed in OP can indeed by done on PS360) how is he doing exactly what g911Turbo said?  How else is the argument supposed to be argued for someone who thinks Wii U is underpowered and the games listed can be done on current gen systems?

Well, to be fair my post was aimed at certain individuals.  Also, it only brings up 2 points.  The false wall of comparison, and moving goal posts.

 

And ANY arguement is made better when you do it tactfully, instead of just spit "venom" so to speak (your post for example, does well by raising a point without being super abrasive, so well done)



TheLastStarFighter on 26 June 2013

It's amazing how much better Pikmin 3 and W101 look than Knack.



curl-6 on 26 June 2013
TheLastStarFighter said:
It's amazing how much better Pikmin 3 and W101 look than Knack.




Zero999 on 26 June 2013
HoloDust said:

I see you post from time to time about hardware, and I'm afraid it's too obvious from your posts that you know very little about how stuff works (mistaking 1 core from APU for GPU being obvious pointer to that).

I strongly suggest, for start, to dig through some threads here (Superchunk's comparison thread is, mostly, accurate enough) if you really want to learn a bit or two about PS4/XOne/WiiU.

Oh, and unlike what some people here living in Phantasy Kingdom believe, the gap between them is, unfortunately, really big - but that's what you get when you ditch successful Wii design, and instead of better innards you go for Gamepad.

and here comes the shitstorm again.

Wii u unknown number of GFLOPS but the 500-700 range is a safe bet. if we get the midle option it's like this: Wii u 600 gflops vs Xone 1200 gflops and ps4 1800 gflops. that's with all three sharing the same modern tools and in the diminishing returns era = not a big difference.

Instead of trying to offend me why don't you try countering my arguments with something better than "that's not true because I say so" wich is what you've been doing so far.