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osed125 on 20 June 2013
disolitude said:
osed125 said:

There's still the annoying downloading times. I have 3 MB of internet speed and it took me like 13 hours so to download The Witcher 2 (which is 13 GB iirc). As a "core" gamer I really don't mind (plus I got it on the cheap), but for most people waiting this long is really cumbersome and it will take time adjust. 


these consoles can play while they download. You donwload like 1 GB and youre good to go...

Can't see this making that much a difference. Someone with a really low internet speed will be able to reach the point where he can't no longer to play and realize that he has to wait for the next part to finish downloading. 



Nintendo and PC gamer

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Mr Khan on 20 June 2013

It was exceptionally dumb of EA in particular, due to the strengths of their annual franchises being their relative ability to retain resale value to fund the purchase of next year's installment.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

disolitude on 20 June 2013
theprof00 said:
disolitude said:
BenVTrigger said:
disolitude said:
They just want to be ahead of the curve.

In 2-3 years, retail based sales should be dwarfed by digital. And since there will be no selling, trading or sharing of games on digital any time soon, EA can relax and play the good guy now to reap the benefits later.


Not happening.

Maybe in 6-7 years.

I'm not so sure. So many other eletronic entertainment devices are going this route. Smart TVs, cellphones, tablets, PCs...

Once people see that downloaded games auto update while disk based games update when you insert the disk...

Once people see how fast app switching works for digital while for disks you have to wait for loading and switch manually yourself...

Once people see that PS4 offers game streaming to the Vita any tiem anywhere, but only for games you bought digitally, while CD games you have to put the disk in and play from home...

Except it's not an all or nothing proposal.

Why are you defending inflexibility?

I am not defending the idea of digial only gaming or lack of choice.

I am defending the idea of a different approach to the industry in terms of business, economics and technology. 

PS4 already does disks and no internet checks, great! People in Afganistan can play that... We will see where that business model leads and what cool technology comes of it (hint: we're already seeing it this gen)

I would have liked to see the different approach from Xbox One and see what it does to the business and economics side of things and what technology can be utilized with all digital gaming. 

For example, what if Microsoft introduces a handheld streaming console like Nvidia Shield that plays your library of games? This handheld can be used any time anywhere since your whole library is digital, it can stream these games from the cloud. But now that your library is half disc based, the only way to stream that is to insert the disk in to console and play from home, which is completely useless. 

I realize that market has spoken and they want the same old, and I really can't present any arguments why Microsofts approach would have been better since I am not a Microsoft employee. It may not have been better...it may have been worse. But it would have been new and different and provide much needed differentiation and choice between the "HD twins". 



Busted on 20 June 2013

that's what they want you to believe...



zuvuyeay on 20 June 2013
arcelonious said:
What I think publishers are going to focus on is creating more incentives for purchasing digital titles, likely through extra content available only with digital purchases. I think all of the console manufacturers know that the market is going closer and closer to digital, I just think Microsoft went the wrong way about it initially by restricting disc-based gaming. If you want to push people towards digital, create incentive to do it, not punish the alternative.


i think that is a good point and enticing people with more online purchases via the game online afterall most of us like to shop and spend money believe it or not

and with next gen online the options will most likely be even greater and better



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oniyide on 20 June 2013

being new and different just for the hell of it, rarely works



TheFallen on 20 June 2013
EricFabian said:
BenVTrigger said:
disolitude said:
They just want to be ahead of the curve.

In 2-3 years, retail based sales should be dwarfed by digital. And since there will be no selling, trading or sharing of games on digital any time soon, EA can relax and play the good guy now to reap the benefits later.


Not happening.

Maybe in 6-7 years.

I think it will be like CD's. Very fast



CD's are Megabytes of data, with songs being a couple of megabytes. Games are 10's of Gigs of data. Also if it was gonna be as fast as CD's it would of already happened .

ebw on 20 June 2013
BenVTrigger said:

"And we thought it made sense to get some compensation for the use of those services. However, what became apparent to us after running it for a while, was that the impact that was having to users having to enter codes before they could get into the game, was too great.

 

 

"We have a gamer-first mentality – we don’t always get credit for it but we do. We looked at it, and said ‘we don’t want to put that barrier there for gamers to have to go through that process. We are going to take it away. We are going to get rid of it. We will go back to making great games and it will all work out.’"

 

This is quite literally an EA-first, gamer-second mentality.  Of course they don't get credit for it.



DakonBlackblade on 20 June 2013

Now everybody is a saint and they always tought about the gamers first, ye right tell me another story plz...



thranx on 20 June 2013
osed125 said:
thranx said:
oniyide said:

they'll never see this if there internet is not up to par. and for alot of people it isnt.

PC gaming seems to do fine world wide

There's still the annoying downloading times. I have 3 MB of internet speed and it took me like 13 hours so to download The Witcher 2 (which is 13 GB iirc). As a "core" gamer I really don't mind (plus I got it on the cheap), but for most people waiting this long is really cumbersome and it will take time adjust. 


which MS had a solution for, distribution through a disc, and a small check in every 24 hrs. so they had a solution, but had to pull it. and they also have the play as you install and download. but with out the drm they cant use the disc as a way to ditribute digital content and tie it to tyour account.