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superchunk said:
bucky1965 said:

PS4 and XBoxne have the same A.I. capabilities. They have the same cpu's. A.I. calculations are done on the cpu.

With the newer architecture (GPGPU), I don't think that is true.

I game  mainly on my p.c. now. My i2600k is overclocked to 4.9 gig. I don't get better A.I., it just calculates it faster. The ultra book cpu,s in the consoles will be the same. The power difference  between the two isn't enough for a noticible  improvement in A.I. Just faster calulations.



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superchunk said:
cablebox said:
"Microsoft and Google are the only two ...that have "the cloud""
really?
I think that's not true

In the manner they are referring, it is definitely true.

With Google I have unlimited storage of all docs/images/videos/etc with nearly instant access on just about any device that is web-enabled including competitors like Apple/MS products.

MS is following that same approach and has greatly expanded its cloud to attempt to match Google's.

 

If MS didn't restrict what I could do with my physical game media, I'd be all over a Xbone.

Microsoft is vastly larger than Google in the cloud in terms of marketshare and presence. Only Amazon WS is able to compete with Azure and that is because they are significanly cheaper. In terms of latency Microsoft tends to beat everyone else...



disolitude said:
superchunk said:
cablebox said:
"Microsoft and Google are the only two ...that have "the cloud""
really?
I think that's not true

In the manner they are referring, it is definitely true.

With Google I have unlimited storage of all docs/images/videos/etc with nearly instant access on just about any device that is web-enabled including competitors like Apple/MS products.

MS is following that same approach and has greatly expanded its cloud to attempt to match Google's.

 

If MS didn't restrict what I could do with my physical game media, I'd be all over a Xbone.

Microsoft is vastly larger than Google in the cloud in terms of marketshare and presence. Only Amazon WS is able to compete with Azure and that is because they are significanly cheaper. In terms of latency Microsoft tends to beat everyone else...

Where are you getting this from? Do you have a source for that? And theres multiple flavours of cloud computing. What exactly are you talking about. You just seem to mention one or two words about cloud but nothing specific. Are you making things up?



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Shinobi-san said:
disolitude said:
superchunk said:
cablebox said:
"Microsoft and Google are the only two ...that have "the cloud""
really?
I think that's not true

In the manner they are referring, it is definitely true.

With Google I have unlimited storage of all docs/images/videos/etc with nearly instant access on just about any device that is web-enabled including competitors like Apple/MS products.

MS is following that same approach and has greatly expanded its cloud to attempt to match Google's.

 

If MS didn't restrict what I could do with my physical game media, I'd be all over a Xbone.

Microsoft is vastly larger than Google in the cloud in terms of marketshare and presence. Only Amazon WS is able to compete with Azure and that is because they are significanly cheaper. In terms of latency Microsoft tends to beat everyone else...

Where are you getting this from? Do you have a source for that? And theres multiple flavours of cloud computing. What exactly are you talking about. You just seem to mention one or two words about cloud but nothing specific. Are you making things up?

Ballmer announced at the last earnings event that Azure is number 1.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/microsoft-azure-overtakes-amazons-cloud-in-performance-test-213344



disolitude said:
Shinobi-san said:

Where are you getting this from? Do you have a source for that? And theres multiple flavours of cloud computing. What exactly are you talking about. You just seem to mention one or two words about cloud but nothing specific. Are you making things up?

Ballmer announced at the last earnings event that Azure is number 1.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/microsoft-azure-overtakes-amazons-cloud-in-performance-test-213344

Number 1 in what sense?

And that article did a very specific test of read, write and delete for storage services. My problem with your comments is that you are making broad and baseless statements. Saying something like MS Azure has the lowest latency is silly. There are multiple plans/service types/implementations related to cloud computing...i dont see how any company can claim to have the lowest latency for cloud computing. And no where in that article do they mention latency...Did Balmer say anything about latency either?



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disolitude said:
superchunk said:
cablebox said:
"Microsoft and Google are the only two ...that have "the cloud""
really?
I think that's not true

In the manner they are referring, it is definitely true.

With Google I have unlimited storage of all docs/images/videos/etc with nearly instant access on just about any device that is web-enabled including competitors like Apple/MS products.

MS is following that same approach and has greatly expanded its cloud to attempt to match Google's.

 

If MS didn't restrict what I could do with my physical game media, I'd be all over a Xbone.

Microsoft is vastly larger than Google in the cloud in terms of marketshare and presence. Only Amazon WS is able to compete with Azure and that is because they are significanly cheaper. In terms of latency Microsoft tends to beat everyone else...

I'll have to take your word on that, I just know MS doesn't give me infinite space from just about any device.



superchunk said:

I'll have to take your word on that, I just know MS doesn't give me infinite space from just about any device.

Of course not. Infinite Space was a DS exclusive.



badgenome said:
superchunk said:

I'll have to take your word on that, I just know MS doesn't give me infinite space from just about any device.

Of course not. Infinite Space was a DS exclusive.

Yep. Got a point there.



Well we don't have to argue about this anymore. It doesn't seem like "cloud" is going to be a buzzword MS will be using to sell the Xbone anymore.

And it just shows that this whole cloud talk was almost complete bullshit. ( i say almost because there are advantages, just not the way they were explaining it)



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ethomaz said:

The game is ONLY online multiplayers... of course it needs a dedicated server... it will use in PS4 version too after the timed console exclusive.

Nothing new here.

Difference is that the DEVELOPER will have to have their own servers, deploy mulple servers to locations and will be responsible for hosting, servicing, troubleshooting ext for their Sony games.

MS is giving developers this for free.  If people do not understand the competitive advantage of this well I do not know what to say.  Today on the PS3 and probably the PS4, multiplayer games are the responsibility of the publisher/developer  which cost money.  Why do you think EA take down their servers once the player pool drops to a certain point.  It cost money to keep those servers running.  For MS it just spins up a server when needed, thus it does not matter if the player base is a thousand or just 2 people.  A dedicated server can spin up for those people.