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In a way, he's right, but just making a change to a game that still is apart of franchise (ie NSMB is NSMB-U) does not count as making a new IP. Yes, Nintendo is playing it very safe right now. A new IP is an entirely new game that takes place in it's own universe. Nintendo hasn't added any new ones to their main list in decades. They just keep rehashing the same core titles, while people continue to buy into it. Not saying that Nintendo's way is bad, but even the greatest game becomes stale eventually. They need to focus on putting their talent towards something new, because, obviously, they have the talent; they're just too afraid to use it.



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orniletter said:
F0X said:
orniletter said:
...Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, Pandoras Tower, The Wonderful 101, Kid Icarus...

inbefore someone telling me that those don´t count because they weren´t developed by first party studios....
It is always the same tired dance !


The Last Story, Pandora's Tower, and The Wonderful 101 are not developed by first-party studios.

However, a lot of people seem to not realize that Xenoblade is, and that's by far the best game you listed.


I can´t believe I was actually dumb enough to include Xenoblade ( I know, I know, Monolith is a first party studio :D )


I would also count it if Nintendo owns the IP in question, which would basically mean that Nintendo is partnering with third-parties work on a new Nintendo franchise. So yes, I would count Demon's Souls or Soul Sacrifice in Sony's favor. Just not any successors.



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BloodyRain said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
I agree with him. Sony is known for taking other peoples IP's changing a few things and calling it a new experience. See PS all Stars, Uncharted, LBP, Modnation, or any other IP they have come up with last gen, its all just copies of what some other company did first.
The same people crying over 3 similar Marios between ds,Wii and Wii U are foaming at the mouth for part 5 or 6 of series on their console of choice so their argument usually ends up not being valid in the end.
When Nintendo does make a new IP it is ignored by the people asking for it. I can think of 5 from last gen but if I named then, the excuses would begin.

Wow, just wow.

On topic:Nintendo should try more new ips though. Though the sequels do sell consoles so they are important too. That kind of is playing it safe though.

 I guess Uncharted, Last of Us, and Little Big Planet were all taken from someone else. Tell you what. If you can name a core Sony franchise that has a part 5 or 6 to it, I'd love to hear about it.





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Well, there are two questions here in this article. The first is, "is Nintendo playing it safe?" And the answer is "yes." Games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, and Donkey Kong Country are safe bets. They're popular, they're critically acclaimed, they sell a lot of copies.

But the other question is much more interesting: what defines a "new IP"? Is it a new character and a new world? Or is it a brand new idea? Because Nintendo regularly pumps new ideas and mechanics into its established IPs, even if the characters and environments are familiar. I think Miyamoto, in this interview, demonstrates again why he's the best game creator alive: the priority is a fun and unique gameplay experience; the stories, characters, and environments come later and help round out that experience.



ListerOfSmeg said:
I agree with him. Sony is known for taking other peoples IP's changing a few things and calling it a new experience. See PS all Stars, Uncharted, LBP, Modnation, or any other IP they have come up with last gen, its all just copies of what some other company did first.
The same people crying over 3 similar Marios between ds,Wii and Wii U are foaming at the mouth for part 5 or 6 of series on their console of choice so their argument usually ends up not being valid in the end.
When Nintendo does make a new IP it is ignored by the people asking for it. I can think of 5 from last gen but if I named then, the excuses would begin.

uncharted? littlebigplanet? LOOOOOOOOOL

 

@OT - its exactly like how activision didnt play it safe with CoD and made ghosts instead of MW4. HUGE risks!!



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It's safe, but who cares? Sequels or not, Nintendo first party games are always great!



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Wonderful 101 is a new IP and it looks pretty cool



Veknoid_Outcast said:

Well, there are two questions here in this article. The first is, "is Nintendo playing it safe?" And the answer is "yes." Games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, and Donkey Kong Country are safe bets. They're popular, they're critically acclaimed, they sell a lot of copies.

But the other question is much more interesting: what defines a "new IP"? Is it a new character and a new world? Or is it a brand new idea? Because Nintendo regularly pumps new ideas and mechanics into its established IPs, even if the characters and environments are familiar. I think Miyamoto, in this interview, demonstrates again why he's the best game creator alive: the priority is a fun and unique gameplay experience; the stories, characters, and environments come later and help round out that experience.

You are right on the money with this question ! We should take a look at the Kirby games on the DS: You CAN count them as "Kirby games" if you wanted, but if you take a closer look (honestly, you don´t even have to look that closely) there is Squeak Squad (which plays like a traditional Kirby game) Canvas Curse/Power Paintbrush (which doesn´t play like a traditional Kirby game rather than using the touchscreen for a wierd but fun on-rails-I-Can´t-describe-it-game) and Mass Attack(which isn´t traditional at all, you control 10 Kirbys at once with the stylus )

Nintendo could have slapped a new skin over Mass Attack and called it a new ip....which would have likely resulted in the game selling significantly less

what defines a "new IP"? Gameplay, setting, characters, graphic style ? Is Remember me better than Kirby´s Mass Attack just because it is located in a new Universe but is a shameless Uncharted clone on the other hand ?



DialgaMarine said:
BloodyRain said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
I agree with him. Sony is known for taking other peoples IP's changing a few things and calling it a new experience. See PS all Stars, Uncharted, LBP, Modnation, or any other IP they have come up with last gen, its all just copies of what some other company did first.
The same people crying over 3 similar Marios between ds,Wii and Wii U are foaming at the mouth for part 5 or 6 of series on their console of choice so their argument usually ends up not being valid in the end.
When Nintendo does make a new IP it is ignored by the people asking for it. I can think of 5 from last gen but if I named then, the excuses would begin.

Wow, just wow.

On topic:Nintendo should try more new ips though. Though the sequels do sell consoles so they are important too. That kind of is playing it safe though.

 I guess Uncharted, Last of Us, and Little Big Planet were all taken from someone else. Tell you what. If you can name a core Sony franchise that has a part 5 or 6 to it, I'd love to hear about it.



Ratchet and clank have like 11 games.  God of War has 6 plus the ios game, Grand turismo has 5 games, is that enough?

Idk about Little Big Planet as I never played it, but there are a lot of simularities between Uncharted and Tomb Raider.  And the Last of Us plays almost Identically to Uncharted (gameplay wise, the story is absolutely fantastic though).



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DialgaMarine said:

 I guess Uncharted, Last of Us, and Little Big Planet were all taken from someone else. Tell you what. If you can name a core Sony franchise that has a part 5 or 6 to it, I'd love to hear about it.




Ratchet & Clank.... God of War is at 6 entries(if you count the PSP games)