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Great review sir! I also disagree about the MP part. And feel a LITTLE different about the "graphics" point but other than that. Very good review, yeah there were some VERY MINOR glitches here and there but it is FAR from a "glitch-fest". The gamelay, characters, immersion and story were AMAZING. And kept me into the game from start to finish. Easily my game of the year right now and it will take A LOT to top this one for me. Congrats again to Naughty Dog on yet another....masterpiece.

And again GREAT review!



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The MP is amazing and I completely disagree with the 7.5 on it. This MP is breathtaking, been playing for >20 hours. (Not to mention I don't agree on MP ever actually lowering the score of a game when the SP is as masterful as it is).



Aldro said:
The MP is amazing and I completely disagree with the 7.5 on it. This MP is breathtaking, been playing for >20 hours. (Not to mention I don't agree on MP ever actually lowering the score of a game when the SP is as masterful as it is).


I review games as a whole package.  For single-player fans you can obviously see that the game is amazing as every category that is single-player related is something great.  However there is different types of gamers which is why i review multiple parts instead of one.  Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer.  I for one am a huge multiplayer gamer so I'm very aware of a good and bad multiplayer.  7.5 is not bad, it just isnt amazing. And since I didnt put this in the review another issue i have with the MP is the lack of headshots. Especially when it comes to the bow and arrow.  It should be a one shot one kill headshot but it isnt.




       

JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:
The MP is amazing and I completely disagree with the 7.5 on it. This MP is breathtaking, been playing for >20 hours. (Not to mention I don't agree on MP ever actually lowering the score of a game when the SP is as masterful as it is).


I review games as a whole package.  For single-player fans you can obviously see that the game is amazing as every category that is single-player related is something great.  However there is different types of gamers which is why i review multiple parts instead of one.  Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer.  I for one am a huge multiplayer gamer so I'm very aware of a good and bad multiplayer.  7.5 is not bad, it just isnt amazing. And since I didnt put this in the review another issue i have with the MP is the lack of headshots. Especially when it comes to the bow and arrow.  It should be a one shot one kill headshot but it isnt.

I don't know man, i've pulled off headshots that drop people instantly and I only play with the bow...

Also " Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer." , One guy the Lead Artist tweeted it was good. How exactly is that "ND hyping it up". It was us fans looking into it because of the lack of details which would actually be the opposite of hyping it. We didn't even know shit until the launch day almost. Please...

Rather ridicilous to think that if the MP didnt exist, the score would be higher. But yeah you're obviously allowed to do it however you want.



Aldro said:
JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:
The MP is amazing and I completely disagree with the 7.5 on it. This MP is breathtaking, been playing for >20 hours. (Not to mention I don't agree on MP ever actually lowering the score of a game when the SP is as masterful as it is).


I review games as a whole package.  For single-player fans you can obviously see that the game is amazing as every category that is single-player related is something great.  However there is different types of gamers which is why i review multiple parts instead of one.  Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer.  I for one am a huge multiplayer gamer so I'm very aware of a good and bad multiplayer.  7.5 is not bad, it just isnt amazing. And since I didnt put this in the review another issue i have with the MP is the lack of headshots. Especially when it comes to the bow and arrow.  It should be a one shot one kill headshot but it isnt.

I don't know man, i've pulled off headshots that drop people instantly and I only play with the bow...

Also " Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer." , One guy the Lead Artist tweeted it was good. How exactly is that "ND hyping it up". It was us fans looking into it because of the lack of details which would actually be the opposite of hyping it. We didn't even know shit until the launch day almost. Please...

Rather ridicilous to think that if the MP didnt exist, the score would be higher. But yeah you're obviously allowed to do it however you want.


So would you prefer that i not review the MP just to get a higher score?  It is a part of the game and should be reviewed.  Some people are interested in it. If you dont care about the MP just ignore it




       

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JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:
JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:
The MP is amazing and I completely disagree with the 7.5 on it. This MP is breathtaking, been playing for >20 hours. (Not to mention I don't agree on MP ever actually lowering the score of a game when the SP is as masterful as it is).


I review games as a whole package.  For single-player fans you can obviously see that the game is amazing as every category that is single-player related is something great.  However there is different types of gamers which is why i review multiple parts instead of one.  Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer.  I for one am a huge multiplayer gamer so I'm very aware of a good and bad multiplayer.  7.5 is not bad, it just isnt amazing. And since I didnt put this in the review another issue i have with the MP is the lack of headshots. Especially when it comes to the bow and arrow.  It should be a one shot one kill headshot but it isnt.

I don't know man, i've pulled off headshots that drop people instantly and I only play with the bow...

Also " Especially when Naughty Dog was hyping up the multiplayer." , One guy the Lead Artist tweeted it was good. How exactly is that "ND hyping it up". It was us fans looking into it because of the lack of details which would actually be the opposite of hyping it. We didn't even know shit until the launch day almost. Please...

Rather ridicilous to think that if the MP didnt exist, the score would be higher. But yeah you're obviously allowed to do it however you want.


So would you prefer that i not review the MP just to get a higher score?  It is a part of the game and should be reviewed.  Some people are interested in it. If you dont care about the MP just ignore it

That's not it at all. If the SP is a say... 9.5 and you feel the MP is "good", how the fuck does that bring the score down to 9.2?

You'd rate the title higher if the function was gone alltogether? That's ridicilous!

 

Hell these are your own words =>

"Yeah.  I'd have it up at a 9.5 if it wasnt for the multiplayer.  And I know what you mean, i couldn't put it down either haha  And It is a pretty lengthy game as well O.o"

So the game is worth a lesser score despite the SP clearly being a 9.5 to you but somehow with MP its lower. I'm sorry bro but I find that plain odd.

I do however think what you've written is well so kudos on that. But no way I'd agree regarding that. And that goes for any title. Your MP score is enough to show what the MP part is, but to actually WEIGH DOWN on the overall product for it when it's somehow better without it is just.. no. Especially since a 7 is regarding as a "good" in my book atleast. So the SP is a 9.5, the MP is good => 9.2. That's a flaw imo. If anything the fact of MP should add a point or if you really find it average atleast keep it on 9.5. But no way the overall product is lower due to a "good MP" then no MP at all. Come on, you've gotta see the logic in this :P

But it's your way of reviewing, im just giving my 2 cents. Feel free to ignore it.



Aldro said:
JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:

That's not it at all. If the SP is a say... 9.5 and you feel the MP is "good", how the fuck does that bring the score down to 9.2?

You'd rate the title higher if the function was gone alltogether? That's ridicilous!

 

Hell these are your own words =>

"Yeah.  I'd have it up at a 9.5 if it wasnt for the multiplayer.  And I know what you mean, i couldn't put it down either haha  And It is a pretty lengthy game as well O.o"

So the game is worth a lesser score despite the SP clearly being a 9.5 to you but somehow with MP its lower. I'm sorry bro but I find that plain odd.

I do however think what you've written is well so kudos on that. But no way I'd agree regarding that. And that goes for any title. Your MP score is enough to show what the MP part is, but to actually WEIGH DOWN on the overall product for it when it's somehow better without it is just.. no.


Because it is a part of the game and i review the whole package, not just one category.  You are paying way too much attention to the overall score rather than looking at them individually.  You know im right when i say that some people are multiplayer gamers and others are single player gamers so why should i exclude a category just because it will hurt the overall score? All this review says is that the single-player is amazing but the multiplayer is decent.  Read the review and you can see that or just look at each category individually. I'm not here to over-hype a product by giving perfect scores out, im here to point out good things as well as flaws and yes the multi-player has a ton of flaws.




       

JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:
JayWood2010 said:
Aldro said:

That's not it at all. If the SP is a say... 9.5 and you feel the MP is "good", how the fuck does that bring the score down to 9.2?

You'd rate the title higher if the function was gone alltogether? That's ridicilous!

 

Hell these are your own words =>

"Yeah.  I'd have it up at a 9.5 if it wasnt for the multiplayer.  And I know what you mean, i couldn't put it down either haha  And It is a pretty lengthy game as well O.o"

So the game is worth a lesser score despite the SP clearly being a 9.5 to you but somehow with MP its lower. I'm sorry bro but I find that plain odd.

I do however think what you've written is well so kudos on that. But no way I'd agree regarding that. And that goes for any title. Your MP score is enough to show what the MP part is, but to actually WEIGH DOWN on the overall product for it when it's somehow better without it is just.. no.


Because it is a part of the game and i review the whole package, not just one category.  You are paying way too much attecntion to the overall score rather than looking at them individual.  You know im right when i say that some people are multiplayer gamers and others are single player gamers so why should i exclude a category just because it will hurt the overall score.  All this review says is that the single-player is amazing but the multiplayer is decent.  Read the review and you can see that or just look at each category individually.  

Yeah I understand that, I did however edit in what you yourself said which is once again =>

"Yeah.  I'd have it up at a 9.5 if it wasnt for the multiplayer.  And I know what you mean, i couldn't put it down either haha  And It is a pretty lengthy game as well O.o"

In your mind, having no MP would bring up the games overall quality. So in theory, if you were to ignore the MP alltogether, you'd rate it a 9.5. Now you do have your own section of the MP which is enough to show the consumer what your thoughts are there. The fact that you still claim its a good MP, and yet the score is lowered is simply weird.

By reviewing the "whole package" you are retracting points off of what would be a 9.5 for the reason that a "good MP" is in. I'd consider the MP a bonus and like you said: Review the whole package. The SP being 9.5 and the MP being 7.5 still doesnt lower the overall score because that SP still holds it own.

 

In short according to your way of doing it=>


The games that have no MP should either drastically lose points otherwise you're rewarding less effort which is the case here. If ND had no MP, it'd be 9.5. I simply don't share that. If a developer makes a good MP, I'd reward it, not punish them for it.

This is my point of view and I am not trying to make you change it.