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SuperMarioWorld said:
Gnac said:

I feel sorry for Monolithsoft, Ganbarion, Sandlot, Skip, Curve Studios, and Mistwalker.

But not as sorry as I feel for those who ignore what they've made.

I adore their games cuz.  I'm just refering to Nintendo's work only.. 

They are still Nintendo games, auntie.

Look at it this way: Nintendo's in-house studios make all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love, and they farm out the work for the new IPs that people mostly ignore.

The latter ignorance enables people to claim that Nintendo provides nothing new. Those who bother to look get rewarded with exciting new things, and those who don't want to get to moan about it. It's win-win!



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OneHappyGamer:) said:
Games in general get less innovative with each console :/


Yep. Industry life cycle i guess in terms of games.



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Gnac said:
SuperMarioWorld said:
Gnac said:

I feel sorry for Monolithsoft, Ganbarion, Sandlot, Skip, Curve Studios, and Mistwalker.

But not as sorry as I feel for those who ignore what they've made.

I adore their games cuz.  I'm just refering to Nintendo's work only.. 

These are still Nintendo games, auntie.

Look at it this way: Nintendo's in-house studios make all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love, and they farm out the work for the new IPs that people mostly ignore.

The latter ignorance enables people to claim that Nintendo provides nothing new. Those who bother to look get rewarded with exciting new things, and those who don't want to get to moan about it. It's win-win!


I hear ya grandma. But the days of Nintendo creating new cutting edge IPs are probably over.. no? There once was a time when Nintendo's in-house studios didn't only make 'all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love'.

Also most of the companies you listed only produce very few titles and are a for a very niche market. Nintendo used to pump out games of all different genres. 



SuperMarioWorld said:
MDMAlliance said:
Your argument is based solely on your opinion and not at all on facts. The proof of that is what you decided to list and what you did not.


What games did I miss bro?! I tried my best to name all the bigger games made by Nintendo on each console. I'd love to know some that I missed mate.


Innovation is seen in many different ways, and frankly it's strange there are MANY games you didn't include but for some reason you included Super Paper Mario... which makes your standard for innovation based on what exactly?  

Doing something new?  If you say that, what did Super Paper Mario do that sets it apart from other games?  I can see what it did to set it apart from other PAPER MARIO games, but really you're going to have to explain yourself.



Jumpin said:
Innovative does not mean new franchises. Innovation refers to new ways of doing things, like new mechanics and interface.

GameCube was in fact the least innovative console by far since it is the only console Nintendo had that didn't really change things from previous consoles. It was essentially an upgrade of the N64, but more or less a dumbed down Playstation 2.

Innovation also gets harder and harder in areas, the more they are established.



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MDMAlliance said:
SuperMarioWorld said:
MDMAlliance said:
Your argument is based solely on your opinion and not at all on facts. The proof of that is what you decided to list and what you did not.


What games did I miss bro?! I tried my best to name all the bigger games made by Nintendo on each console. I'd love to know some that I missed mate.


Innovation is seen in many different ways, and frankly it's strange there are MANY games you didn't include but for some reason you included Super Paper Mario... which makes your standard for innovation based on what exactly?  

Doing something new?  If you say that, what did Super Paper Mario do that sets it apart from other games?  I can see what it did to set it apart from other PAPER MARIO games, but really you're going to have to explain yourself.

Seriously dude I found it hard to think of any new IPs for the Wii made by Nintendo. Super Paper Mario was a last minute edit. Also Excite Truck is a stretch as it is kinda just a spin off sequel to excite bike. I guess I'm just listing all the new IPs introduced on each console. Super Paper MArio even though it has the 'Paper Mario' name is really it's own series. 



SuperMarioWorld said:
Gnac said:

These are still Nintendo games, auntie.

Look at it this way: Nintendo's in-house studios make all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love, and they farm out the work for the new IPs that people mostly ignore.

The latter ignorance enables people to claim that Nintendo provides nothing new. Those who bother to look get rewarded with exciting new things, and those who don't want to get to moan about it. It's win-win!


I hear ya grandma. But the days of Nintendo creating new cutting edge IPs are probably over.. no? There once was a time when Nintendo's in-house studios didn't only make 'all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love'.

Also most of the companies you listed only produce very few titles and are a for a very niche market. Nintendo used to pump out games of all different genres. 

They still do, Eastern European Sex-worker. You're just used to what they do, much like Nintendo is.

The current setup addresses your desire for new things, so I really don't understand why this thread even exists.



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Gnac said:
SuperMarioWorld said:
Gnac said:

I feel sorry for Monolithsoft, Ganbarion, Sandlot, Skip, Curve Studios, and Mistwalker.

But not as sorry as I feel for those who ignore what they've made.

I adore their games cuz.  I'm just refering to Nintendo's work only.. 

They are still Nintendo games, auntie.

You needn't even go that far. A bunch of the titles listed (Excite Truck, Eternal Darkness, Batallion Wars, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, Mario RPG, and Starfox) were developed by a second-or-third party. Skip is more "Nintendo" than any of the developers of the above. Monolithsoft IS Nintendo now; saying they aren't is like saying Intelligent Systems or HAL aren't Nintendo.



Gnac said:
SuperMarioWorld said:
Gnac said:

These are still Nintendo games, auntie.

Look at it this way: Nintendo's in-house studios make all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love, and they farm out the work for the new IPs that people mostly ignore.

The latter ignorance enables people to claim that Nintendo provides nothing new. Those who bother to look get rewarded with exciting new things, and those who don't want to get to moan about it. It's win-win!


I hear ya grandma. But the days of Nintendo creating new cutting edge IPs are probably over.. no? There once was a time when Nintendo's in-house studios didn't only make 'all the REHASHED BILLIONTH-TIME TIRED SHIT that people love'.

Also most of the companies you listed only produce very few titles and are a for a very niche market. Nintendo used to pump out games of all different genres. 

They still do, Eastern European Sex-worker. You're just used to what they do, much like Nintendo is.

The current setup addresses your desire for new things, so I really don't understand why this thread even exists.


lol. Did you look through the list of games?!?! I'm not sure how you can compare Nintendo's Wii efforts to some of the incredibly innovative IPs of the past consoles. Nintendo introduced us to Metroid, Zelda, Mario and Kid Icarus (plus so many others) all on one console. Now compare that to Wii Party and Wii Music.!?!?!?! 



noname2200 said:
Gnac said:

They are still Nintendo games, auntie.

You needn't even go that far. A bunch of the titles listed (Excite Truck, Eternal Darkness, Batallion Wars, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, Mario RPG, and Starfox) were developed by a second-or-third party. Skip is more "Nintendo" than any of the developers of the above. Monolithsoft IS Nintendo now; saying they aren't is like saying Intelligent Systems or HAL aren't Nintendo.

Ack, my mind is Hazy on the timeline regarding Nintendo's aquisition of Monolithsoft and DISASTAH. I know that game got some hate, but it was the closest we're going to get to a DIE HARD game without actually being one. Even the cheesiness was perfectly recreated.



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