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WaSuMaRa on 11 July 2008
IvoYarido said:
chriscox1121 said:
nice games everyone. i have to get to bed, work comes early!

 

Only word in the world that makes me cry ; ; I hate work ; ;

Oh, Wasu, I'm sorry but awesome first impression! The fearsome DK that suicides 3 times. The miiiiind gaaaaaaames. >.> I can see why people have problems with it though from Delfino. You seem to space well with him :P <3 my heavy bretheren.

I need a break though.. my back is killing me X.x

 

Hahaha I loved that match, I couldn't stop laughing all the match. I did some pretty stupid things and lost within a minute. I think I spectated more time than the time I fought, but was fun nevertheless.



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WaSuMaRa on 11 July 2008
IvoYarido said:
chriscox1121 said:
@ ivo...we had some pretty good matches tonight. that ivosaur up smash is ridiculous

 

Vertical KO percentages with uncharged up smashes.

Ivysaur: 59 (82 fatigued)
Lucas: 75
G&W: 77
Peach: 84
Fox: 93
Squirtle: 93 (117 fatigued)
Olimar: R-98 Y-108 B-98 P-79 W-165
Ike: 100
Kirby: 101
Snake: 102 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Charizard: 104 (133 fatigued)
Zelda: 105
Ganondorf: 105
Luigi: 106
Falcon: 107
DeDeDe: 109 (103 for u-tilt...)
Toon Link: 112
Ice Climbers: 114 (similar alone)
Pikachu: 115
Falco: 122
Mario: 124
Marth: 124
Wolf: 124
Jigglypuff: 128
Bowser: 129
Link: 130
Yoshi: 130
Wario: 137
Pit: 140
Meta-Knight: 143
Ness: 147 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Samus: 153 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Sonic: 158 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Zamus: 159
Diddy: 159 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Lucario: 177 [Lucario @ 0% damage himself]

Ivy has the most powerful up smash =p KOes at 33% fully charged. On low ceilings its even more deadly =p

 

Erm you forgot DK in that list...

 



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IvoYarido on 11 July 2008

That's because DK can't hit a grounded Mario with up smash, nor can R.O.B.



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Possum5454 on 11 July 2008

^ ....yes he can. you just have to slide into it..

 

EDIT: well DK can, i dunno about Rob.

 

EDIT2: it kills at 90% on final destination.



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IvoYarido on 11 July 2008

This is just standing, with a flick of the C-stick. It also wasn't my test. Mario also doesn't stand too tall, he can hit people like Marth just standing. R.O.B. can hit people he's overlapping down to Pikachu's size.

Theres another test for Up smashes against aerial opponents, but then it leaves out several shorter characters and other shorter characters can't hit with their main hit box.



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Possum5454 on 11 July 2008

my bad, it's actually 82% (i just did repeated up smashes the first time)

i do believe that it is impossible to hit people shorter than Mario though.


@ ivo i see, well you never said that, just that DK couldn't do it =P



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IvoYarido on 11 July 2008

Uncharged up smash (some U-tilts) KO percentages for a Mario standing on the right platform of Battlefield with the attacker standing below. Some characters are too short to hit with the main hitbox from there, and some up smashes change their trajectory at this range. Lucas, for instance, has his powerful main hitbox centered just around his head while a weaker one extends upwards. Peach's sweet spot is at her shoulder pads, while her hand is actually her standard hit box, and she has a sour spot around her lowered hand.

Ivysaur: 51 (68 fatigued)
DK: 74
Lucas: 80
Peach: 84
Ganondorf: 85
Shiek: 86
Olimar: R-89 Y-96 B-89 P-116 W-151
Ike: 92
Bowser: 93 (99 for u-tilt)
ROB: 93
DeDeDe: 100 (95 for u-tilt...)
Ice Climbers: 102 (similar alone)
Toon Link: 103
Zelda: 107
Snake: 111 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Charizard: 112 (143 fatigued)
Marth: 116
Yoshi: 120
Link: 126
Wolf: 128 (116 for u-tilt...)
Kirby: 129
Squirtle: 130 (159 fatigued)
Pit: 140
Samus: 141 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Ness: 142
Diddy: 148
Falcon: 150
Sonic: 157 (u-tilt, more powerful than smash)
Lucario: 164 (192 for u-tilt) [Lucario @ 0% damage himself]
Pikachu: 172

Interesting to note: Ness is the only character that gains absolutely nothing from charging his up smash.



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Possum5454 on 11 July 2008

hurray for DK =D

good stuff ivo



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taomaster06 on 11 July 2008
IvoYarido said:
taomaster06 said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
Tao, I think it's time for you to bring your legendary Ness back out.

i don't use ness anymore. I know im struggling with lucas but running away from my problems will only mean ive failed.

 

Sometimes I find the best way to improve, is to take some time off (not too long though mind you) from the character you want to improve with. Then, when your ready, have at it again with a fresh perspective.

I'm actually very impressed and honored to know someone so determined with Lucas even with his obvious flaws and glitches against him. Time off is never a bad thing though, I take frequent breaks from my mains to use that time to reflect upon their strategies.

 

  thanks ivo.

maybe i do need a break from him. perhaps i'll start using ganondorf for a while.



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Riot Of The Blood on 11 July 2008

Use ness!!!



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