But those are multiplats aren't they?

The pricepoint and no drm was enough for me to atleast wait with a purchase of a xbone, ms showed alot of dudebro games and i liked titanfall but the games im most interested in are multiplats so then i will obviously go with the PS4 since im still a pro sony guy. Atleast untill Ms lowers the price and give me something other than brown killfests

Also, the PS4 is region free and you can change the hdd

Oh, are they? If so, I take it back. Ms won if that's the case (though I'm personally not interested enough in what they showed). 

Yeah, they would have explicitly said they were exclusive, since they in the same sentence pointed out how FF14 would be exclusive.

That's my sentiment too, that Xbone won games-wise objectively speaking, but I personally aren't interested in them (xcept for perhaps Qauntum Break but we know too little about it).

To me next-gen is all about multiplats at this point. So many great multiplats coming.

Well the best thing about this is that now that Sony has so clearly said that they won't have any DRM, any publisher who tries to implement this is gonna look like an ass tbh.

Yes man and that was Playstation4...in respect of actual games. Lets be honest here

Yeah, it makes sense. Thanks for pointing it out. I actually couldn't agree more (apart from the Quantum Break game, which looks really cool, but still not my cup of tea). 

I'm pre ordering ps4 , unless someone can remind me why I should get xbox1? Ps4 is cheaper more powerful doesn't require constant online and il be able to buy/sell used games on eBay etc just like normal

. I'm not having s camera shoved down my throat I'd prefer to buy that seperarly, just like this gen I expect ps4 to have more games than xbox1 and better quality titles. Together with the gaikai service and attractive psn+ membership that will include drive club as day one benefit its hard to pick xbox1 over ps4. I predict ps4 to outsell xbox1 in all territories .

This. Beg your company to not fuck you over and remain in status quo. Company only decides to fuck you halfway over. Celebrate a huge win.