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atma998 on 12 June 2013
DareDareCaro said:
atma998 said:
What this price is telling me is that this gen will look very similar to what we saw last gen: Nintendo will sell better on the first 3 to 4 years and then Sony and Microsoft will do better on the 2 to 3 last years of the gen.

We still don't know how the PS4 will be priced but there is no way it will be cheaper than Xbox one.


So you're telling us that PS4 and XboxOne will sell less than 25k a week and you still don't know how the PS4 will be priced? Geez... 


Yes, I didnt know how the PS4 was priced and yes I'm pretty sure that both Xbox One and PS4 will sell near 25k/week a couple month after their releases while WiiU sales will get better.



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sth88 on 12 June 2013

Microsoft's problem isn't that the X1 price is absurdly high, like the PS3 launch price was. $499 is definitely steep, but taken by itself is (just barely) within the bounds of what can be called reasonable.

Their problem is that the PS4 is $100 cheaper, and thus looks way better in comparison to the X1.



binary solo on 12 June 2013
Jereel Hunter said:
kowenicki said:
RolStoppable said:
kowenicki said:

I'm sorry... what?

You are making efforts to rationalize bad decisions of a company you like. Over the last two weeks it should have become clear to you that Microsoft is about to drive against a wall and today's announcement of the launch price sealed the deal. Yet here you are and tell us that everything is okay.

What will the kowenicki of 2014 be like? Will he tell us that the X1 sells well for its price? That the X1 doesn't sell better, because the market is too stupid to understand its value? That people only hate the X1, because they are too poor to afford one?


I'm not rationalising it, I'm just stating a mathematical fact.

X1 will be sold out in the US and UK at launch.  you dont think so?


Math is not welcome here, people are busy hating! How dare they charge $500 for a console without even announcing something like Ridge Racer? Riiiiiidge racer!

Fact is Xbone isn't competing with PS3 or 360. It's competing with 2 cheaper consoles. 360 struggled to outsell PS3 when PS3 was more expensive than 360. You think Xbone is not going to find it tough to sell against a cheaper PS4?

Sold out at launch is meaningless unless they ship a large number of consoles. If Xbone's yield problems are true then MS will probably end up not shipping all that many units in 2013, so sold out, yeah, but hiigh sales? I doubt it.



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phinch1 on 12 June 2013
MikeRox said:
phinch1 said:
teigaga said:
The UK price is ridiculous. Extortion.


not really if you think a samsung galaxy s4 and an iphone are £500 + and tablets are £300-400

tablets and phones are outdated every year...

consoles are kept for years, i can play my DVD'S Blue rays cd's, memory sticks play block buster games

So i don't actually think paying £500 for a console is that bad, considering how long i will keep it and how usefull it is


Very few people pay £500+ for a phone. They get them free with their contract and upgrade their handset when they renew their contract. They are also portable devices which people consider more essential than a games console. Really poor example, please try better.

Alternate slant on the "inflation means it's cheaper"

"Total pay in some parts of the UK has shrunk by more than 10% since the start of the downturn in 2007, analysis by a union organisation suggests."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22851978

So as I said, £429 now is actually MORE to a lot of people than £425 was back in 2007, irrelivent of inflation.


I mean working in a phone shop i wouldnt know how many people buy ouy handsets..... they dont come "free" your paying nearly double the odds for the phone



cookingyourmama on 12 June 2013

Oh dear yet another 'classic' 'totally unbiased' kowenicki post.

Wages have stayed the same and the price of the Xbox One is still horrendous. Jog on.



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Porcupine_I on 12 June 2013

This thread convinced me, i'm not going to buy a PS3 in 2006



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MikeRox on 12 June 2013
phinch1 said:


I mean working in a phone shop i wouldnt know how many people buy ouy handsets..... they dont come "free" your paying nearly double the odds for the phone


Oh I know how contracts work, you get a free phone, and the cost of the phone is added to your line rental. However, the phone is separate of your contract. The point still stands that there is no upfront cost for the device.

I work on the otherside sorting it out when people stop paying the bills :P So I constantly have the argument of "the phone stopped working" etc as reason for early termination of a contract.



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phinch1 on 12 June 2013
MikeRox said:
phinch1 said:


I mean working in a phone shop i wouldnt know how many people buy ouy handsets..... they dont come "free" your paying nearly double the odds for the phone


Oh I know how contracts work, you get a free phone, and the cost of the phone is added to your line rental. However, the phone is separate of your contract. The point still stands that there is no upfront cost for the device.

I work on the otherside sorting it out when people stop paying the bills :P So I constantly have the argument of "the phone stopped working" etc as reason for early termination of a contract.

its not really a free phone if in the end your paying 2-3x the amount of it, when line rentals really are about £6:50 for 250 mins 5000 texts and 500 mb data

 

also its changing now, newer contracts are being set up with two contracts and one direct debit, and one is a credit agreement for the phone, so they are no longer free, starting with the s4



ethomaz on 12 June 2013

Can somebody make the PS4 inflation adjusted price too?



LurkerJ on 12 June 2013
Jay520 said:
I'm about confused. What point are you trying to make here? I hate when people just present data without making a point.

If you're trying to say what I think you're trying to say, then I am very disappointed in you, Kowen. You can do better. You must do better.


It's not the next PS3. Somehow this makes the Xbone looks better, It' sad.