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Zizzla_Rachet on 07 June 2013
J_Allard said:
Mr Puggsly said:
J_Allard said:
I closed it when the emo scream started. Can someone please summarize who he is and what he says in 24 minutes?

Just gonna take a wild guess...

Something along the lines of, "DRM SUCKS! FUCK MS!"

Probably tells us to get into PC gaming as well even though that's the market with the strictest DRM.


Bingo.!



 



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SnakeDrake on 07 June 2013

I hope this would lead to angry joe to get a ps4 and review games for that system. He's one of the most entertaining review out there.



 

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mtu9356 on 07 June 2013

http://youtu.be/t9rA9cJjU9c

A review of the X1 conference, pretty entertaining

 

 



Madword on 07 June 2013

Angry Joe is a good view on what has been wrong so far with MS's approach.

Full disclosure I own an Xbox and PS3 but i prefer to play PS3. Now I cannot see how *ANY* gamer can support what MS is doing. It's an absolute disgrace as Joe says. If Sony pull this kind of crap, even though i own probably 300+ games I will not be supporting their next console... because when i buy a game i expect to be able to use it in 5/10 years time as long as my hardware still works. I do not expect the ability for me to play games (online/offline) to be in the hands of a company who decides that they don't want me playing these games anymore because they want me to get their next console.

As for PC DRM, yes the PC has some DRM, and I generally stay away from it if I know about it. I've purchased 90+ games off GOG and will continue to do that.



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DigitalDevilSummoner on 07 June 2013

A veteran xbox fan and now polygon. This is serious.



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Mr Puggsly on 07 June 2013
Hynad said:


What about you come up with something constructive then? Defend these policies if they're not that big a deal. Take the big picture and bring some arguments on the table to let us see what this constructivity you're talking about really is. Because deflecting everything negative that is said about those policies in the way you do isn't really what one would call constructive. And it certainly doesn't lead to intelligent discussions.

Defend it? Why would I do that?

We didn't learn anything new, just another excuse to piss and moan about the Xbox One.

There was zero potential for any intelligent discussion.



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Jinova on 07 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/It-Official-PS4-Feature-Used-Game-DRM-Like-Xbox-One-56264.html

Sheds light on Sony's policy regarding DRM (although, it is completely off-topic, but I keep seeing them needlessly brought into this discussion).


Thank you! 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 08 June 2013
thranx said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
tiffac said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Bonafide732 said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

 Finally, someone who shows intellegence. The PS4 will be no different than what is going on with the PS3. If third parties choose to interfere thats their negotiation or funeral with consumers. 

I just look at the Vita and hope the ps4 is the same way///

 

Side note to me it isnt a xbox vs sony thing.. i think this is deeper than console loyalty.. this is gaming our way of life.. its an attack on our way of life but whatever..these companies can do no wrong i guess


They are turning it into a war when it doesnt need to be an Xbox vs Playstation issue. We get that their fans but they need to derail the truth just they favor the console. 


^This, Instead of being busy trying to justify the issue because the other company is also doing it. We should be wary about the mandatory DRM implementation. Have we become a generation of gamers, so compliant that we just accept changes that can easily step on our basic consumer rights? Is the sale of the consoles more important to us? The gaming community should stand up to this but it seems like brand loyalty is more important to others.


They dont even get that this is about consumer rights being breached and I wouldnt be surprised if someone sues MS over intrusion on the first sale doctrine via the supreme court in the US. It protects Americans right to first sale and they have hindered it by demanding profit of a second hand sale, which is not a right of theirs. As gamers we all need to stand up for console gamer rights.


MS doesnt get any profit from second hand sales on the xbox one. they have stated that.


LOL Look up the Azure system. They get a cut of every second hand sale along with publishers This leaves Gamestop with such a small cut that they will most likely hike up the price of Xbox one games.



J_Allard on 08 June 2013

MS has said they get no compensation for the used game transactions. The only thing Gamestop has to worry about are the publishers.



Trunkin on 08 June 2013
Madword said:
Angry Joe is a good view on what has been wrong so far with MS's approach.

Full disclosure I own an Xbox and PS3 but i prefer to play PS3. Now I cannot see how *ANY* gamer can support what MS is doing. It's an absolute disgrace as Joe says. If Sony pull this kind of crap, even though i own probably 300+ games I will not be supporting their next console... because when i buy a game i expect to be able to use it in 5/10 years time as long as my hardware still works. I do not expect the ability for me to play games (online/offline) to be in the hands of a company who decides that they don't want me playing these games anymore because they want me to get their next console.

As for PC DRM, yes the PC has some DRM, and I generally stay away from it if I know about it. I've purchased 90+ games off GOG and will continue to do that.

What's GOG?