Another point to note is that theyre essentially saying "Fuck you!" to over 30 Million Xbox 360 owners?
46 Million Live members. This includes Silver and Gold over numerous platforms.
77.5 Million 360's sold.
At least 30 Million people have never connected the console to the net and joined Live, right? Or am I mistaken here?
NesFe said:
You cannont share your games with a friend. The game can be given to a friend once. Meaning, he will own the game and you can no longer play it and he cannot give it to anyone else. As for the family member issuse. We don't know yet, but over at gaf people were saying only 2 family members at a time can play the game. Not all 10. Hope this helps . |
I think the once is meant to be that if you give ur game to a friend you can only give it away once not to every friend. So I can give you the game I can't give it anyone now you can give it back or to some one else
Wow disappointing
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That summarize everything...
"but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."
lol
superchunk said:
Honestly your loyalty to MS after this pisses me off. I'm probably going to get banned for this rant but its a bunch of bullshit and you're being an idiot to accept such a destruction of your rights to ownership. Its not about being always online and you won't get it anywhere... just places with broadband internet. Its about owning what you buy and being able to do with it as you see fit. These policies lead to you not owning anythign ever. You only own it as long as MS decides to support the service or the specific game. The current status quo where that type of draconian policy was already deliberately held in distinction between owning the physical media or digital copy. While still not a best case scenario, at least you had a choice. Now that choice is gone and and instead you own nothing. I sincerely hope you are in the minority so this policy dies with the Xbone. Hopefully Sony sees the potetial differentiation it can create between its product and stays clear of anything like this. |
I don't want to "own" games so I could shove them up my ass and then show my friends how far it can go. I want to "own" games to play games to be entertained...
What part of "owning" and "playing" for the sake of entertainment is not possible with this online DRM model? Absolutely none.
You guys may argue that Microsoft may stop supporing the console down the line and cut off service to playing these games. If they decide to do that (which I find quite doubtful for at least 20 years after console launch) there is absolutely no reason why they won't just disable DRM for the console at that point and let you play without the online verification. DRM is just software that can be adjusted any time...
Xbox One also fully supports external storage and should give you the opportunity to back up all of your games, in case a game is pulled off Xbox Live for one reason or another.
While I agree that there are people out there that this console is absolutely not geared for, it works for me. I understand if people with lack of internet availabilty complain...
But what I see around here is a lot of people that can easily enjoy this console and make it work, but who are are just looking to add extra meaning to their life by making a completely meaningless stand for a completely BS cause. Rights for gamers! I have internet and can buy games and now can share them with family and friends, but yeah fight the power... Or just usual people bashing Microsoft for everything they can. Not sure where you belong...both?
Well, clarification is better than all the mixed signals we got after the reveal which led to many a heated argument around here. So kudos to them on that.
I was honestly not expecting these rumours to come true though. Wasn't the most recent number of active Xbox Live accounts something like 46m, compared to the ~77m we have sold here. They're happy to just give up those customers; or are they assuming that they're not going to be the early adopters and between now and when they do decide to buy the new Xbox, they'll be connected?
Aside from that, this all just seems un-necessarily complicated. I'm not sure I fully understand the deal with used games. So amazon/eBay sales are impossible, or...?
Makes me worry that Sony will follow suit, too.
(Also, is this the explanation for EA dropping online pass system?)
| ethomaz said: That summarize everything... "but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies." lol |
thats comment is a slap in the face
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| dane007 said: But its not good for teh gamign indsutriesd if these people rely on borrowing and play tthje game and finish sp capaigns and then play the multiplayer without havign to spend a single dime RIGHT? 10 cpas for family members is abit small but i guessing its based on per household and they easily increase it with a patch. People comp,aining ae just too greedy and want everythign to be free |
You're jumping to conclusions that do not exist.
There are laws about used clothes, cars, books, music, (fill in any other physical commodity)....
If you buy it, you own it. That is it.
I bought a game on a disc for $60... $45.. $15. It doesn't matter what I do with it, I own it. If I want to give it to my nephew because his poor parents can't afford shit.. I should be able to. If he then wants to give it to his little brother... he should be able to.
If I want to resell it on eBay so I can buy some other new game or new console by selling all my used shit, I should be able to.
This is 100% bad for consumers of every industry because if it works and is accepted, say goodbye to used everything that can be digitally tracked.
| Carl2291 said: Another point to note is that theyre essentially saying "Fuck you!" to over 30 Million Xbox 360 owners? 46 Million Live members. This includes Silver and Gold over numerous platforms. 77.5 Million 360's sold. At least 30 Million people have never connected the console to the net and joined Live, right? Or am I mistaken here? |
Technically its at most 30 mill having connected since you don't know how many are people buying a new one to replace a broken one
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You know what boddy... I think youre not seeing the picture.
If you can make designated people your "family members", you and your group of "family members" can buy 1 game and enjoy it...together, at once.
You can only share your 360 game with family members 1 at a time...catch my drift amigo?
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