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DirtyP2002 said:
Netyaroze said:
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:

So I can access my whole library at every Xbox One out there, just by logging in with my account and without any discs?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

 

And people with 18.000 posts on a gaming forum complaining about connecting the console to the internet can not be taken seriously. I am sorry.

 

Actually this is very good news. VERY GOOD.


Im sure being told you're restricted is a great thing...somehow. Enjoy it.

Restricted?

Feel free to name me another console that allows you to access all (every single one!) your games on every console, just by logging in.

Playstation 4. If you choose to buy a digital copy anyway.  Thats the great thing about options. No/bad Internet or incoming Datacaps (speed reduction to 50kb/s, see (soon) Telekom/4G/3G buy physical copy and you can lend it too. Have great Internet that lets you download a 25-50gig game and want the Steam experience ? Buy a digital copy instead. Everybody wins.

 




So just for digital copies then. See, you are restricted.


Yes but you have still more freedom overall. MS offers 1 option the always online way. Sony can theoretically offer 2 options the traditional way and the Steam one. 

 



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KylieDog said:
Being practical, this isn't much better than what we knew a couple weeks ago.

What still sucks most is:

- No rentals
- Still cannot loan a game to a friend, get it back, loan to another, or even lend a game back and forth multiple times with one friend
- No private selling/buying, which is the only way to not get riped off on a game more than a few weeks old.

I rent a lot of games, I'm constantly lending games to friends or borrowing, taking games with me to a friends and while I do not personally sell games, I sometimes buy used, but I do it privately because stores are jokers with pricing.

So basically you are the person publisher put stuff like this in place.  You probably purchase 2 games a year and pretty much mooch the rest.



zzamaro said:
DirtyP2002 said:
mike_intellivision said:
DirtyP2002 said:
LordMatrix said:
Soonerman said:
Great job MS! This clear stuff and it's a lot better than the absurd things fans of opposing consoles were saying. I will definitely be getting Xbox One. I also love how they're being fair to players that want to sell used games and to the developers to make the games.


Hell hath frozen over! I`m a Husker fan and I`m agreeing with a Sooner fan.

I really don`t see all the fuss over this anymore. The fears off privacy using Kinect 2.0 and Used game fees plus nobody being able to borrow games etc have been handled and are not nearly as horrific as originally speculated.

I am a Gamefly user however and I do hope they clarify whether or not Gamefly or even places I work for like Blockbuster will even be able to rent out Xbox One titles in some shape or form.

Unless you are in the Military or less developed country the whole 24 hour check in won`t be even noticed by most. If you are one of those few unlucky fellows you could at least use your phone as a mobile hotspot when needed to fix this issue.

EXACTLY.

People try to spin this as if this would be a big deal.

Before this clarification came out we thought:

- Kinect is always watching you
- Kinect is always listening
- MS will require a fee for used games
- MS will basically kill the used game market
- You can't share your games at all

Now we know:

- You can turn Kinect off. No listening, no watching.
- There won't be a fee for used games
- There will be a used game market
- You can share your games with anyone inside your house
- 10 family members can access your shared gaming library anywhere in the world on any Xbox One

 

And people are like 'OKAY NOW THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR!'


No. It is the what happens to my games in 2020 when they shut the XB1 authentication servers down.   I have had one Internet outage (without power loss) longer than 24 hrs in 12 years in my house (5 days).  But I would fear loss of investment/value when MS takes down its end. And it will probably be buried in the EULA.

No. It is EA and other publishes setting up what value (if any) my game has on the used market. That is where the fee will be, Publishers will have the power to completely lock out used games in an effort to get around the first sale doctrine. They did it with PCs

I also think that Microsoft opened a Pandora's Box with the family issue as it will either hae to police it or see software sales potentially plummet because of large, new, extended groupings.

Why should MS shut down Xbox Live? In 2020 the Xbox One will still be sold, so this is not gonna happen.
Multiplayer might be shut down long after the successor of the Xbox One released, so about 2025, but the verification servers will probably run even longer. Those don't have to handle much data anyway.

So we are talking about an unlikely scenario, that MIGHT happen in 2030 or something. According to your profile you will be 66 years old then. If the value of your video games you bought decades ago is worrying you then... well... you should get your priorities right.

 

Dirty from Germany!

I didn't know what to bold...I'm at a loss for words. Anyway, it's hard to believe you believe that.


You don't believe this? What exactly?

Do you think the Xbox One will not be sold in 7 years? Do you think the XBL Servers will be shut down while the Xbox One is still in stores?



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:

So I can access my whole library at every Xbox One out there, just by logging in with my account and without any discs?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

 

And people with 18.000 posts on a gaming forum complaining about connecting the console to the internet can not be taken seriously. I am sorry.

 

Actually this is very good news. VERY GOOD.


Im sure being told you're restricted is a great thing...somehow. Enjoy it.

Seriously, the "thank you sir, may I have another" mentality of many of my fellow gamers is disheartening to say the least. (see the first quote of my sig)

I guess I should look at it this way; whoever is actually willing to buy an Xbone,  DESERVES it..



All I read on these forums is the negatives about these changes, not one of you relentlessly bashing these changes has any foresight to see the future benefits of this system. In 5 years time a lot of you are going to look frankly stupid imo. The change is coming as Steam has shown over the last 10 years, it's time you all started considering all the angles and not just your negative narrow viewpoint.

A connected console was always the direction Microsoft was taking ever since they committed to building the Xbox Live environment. In a few years you will see Sony desperately back tracking to add a internet connection requirement for a enhanced experience as you see all the extra functionality that having a permanent internet connection will produce.

I've never been without internet for 24 hours in over 10 years at home and for the last 4/5 years I've always had a backup 3G wifi connection courtesy of my phone wherever I go, some people really do live in the dark ages if this site is to be believed.

Don't bother quoting/replying to me, I have no intention of debating with the same people rehashing the same whinging that they've been doing for the last 3 weeks. We'll see by the end of the year just how many people are really bothered by these policies outside of gaming forums.



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Metallicube said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:

So I can access my whole library at every Xbox One out there, just by logging in with my account and without any discs?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

 

And people with 18.000 posts on a gaming forum complaining about connecting the console to the internet can not be taken seriously. I am sorry.

 

Actually this is very good news. VERY GOOD.


Im sure being told you're restricted is a great thing...somehow. Enjoy it.

Seriously, the "thank you sir, may I have another" mentality of many of my fellow gamers is disheartening to say the least. (see the first quote of my sig)

I guess I should look at it this way; whoever is actually willing to buy an Xbone,  DESERVES it..


Im not saying the games wont be good, but what MS is doing should not go without being responded to by hardcore gamers. The masses will ignore it because they are used to restrictions anyway.



slowmo said:
All I read on these forums is the negatives about these changes, not one of you relentlessly bashing these changes has any foresight to see the future benefits of this system. In 5 years time a lot of you are going to look frankly stupid imo. The change is coming as Steam has shown over the last 10 years, it's time you all started considering all the angles and not just your negative narrow viewpoint.

A connected console was always the direction Microsoft was taking ever since they committed to building the Xbox Live environment. In a few years you will see Sony desperately back tracking to add a internet connection requirement for a enhanced experience as you see all the extra functionality that having a permanent internet connection will produce.

I've never been without internet for 24 hours in over 10 years at home and for the last 4/5 years I've always had a backup 3G wifi connection courtesy of my phone wherever I go, some people really do live in the dark ages if this site is to be believed.

Don't bother quoting/replying to me, I have no intention of debating with the same people rehashing the same whinging that they've been doing for the last 3 weeks. We'll see by the end of the year just how many people are really bothered by these policies outside of gaming forums.

If MS wishes to be like steam, they should at least have the decency  to sell full retail games at $5-$20 like Steam does, since we're only getting the digital copies and don't actually "own" our own games. THEN perhaps I might give the Xbone a second look.

But until then, I will be staying FAR away from the Xbone, while enjoy actually OWNING the games I purchase with my hard earned money on my PC and soon to be Wii U, where I can actually sell my used games over Amazon, or where ever I damn well please if I so chose. I know, what a concept!



slowmo said:
All I read on these forums is the negatives about these changes, not one of you relentlessly bashing these changes has any foresight to see the future benefits of this system. In 5 years time a lot of you are going to look frankly stupid imo. The change is coming as Steam has shown over the last 10 years, it's time you all started considering all the angles and not just your negative narrow viewpoint.

A connected console was always the direction Microsoft was taking ever since they committed to building the Xbox Live environment. In a few years you will see Sony desperately back tracking to add a internet connection requirement for a enhanced experience as you see all the extra functionality that having a permanent internet connection will produce.

I've never been without internet for 24 hours in over 10 years at home and for the last 4/5 years I've always had a backup 3G wifi connection courtesy of my phone wherever I go, some people really do live in the dark ages if this site is to be believed.

Don't bother quoting/replying to me, I have no intention of debating with the same people rehashing the same whinging that they've been doing for the last 3 weeks. We'll see by the end of the year just how many people are really bothered by these policies outside of gaming forums.

There you go, it's what posting in a forum is for right?

But surely you understand that people don't want to buy a console that will benefit them after 5 years time, thats almost a consoles' entire lifecycle. And since i've read every single post bar the last 30, there's not much bashing here, people just voicing opinions and invoking their rights as consumers, as they should.



kowenicki said:

In my home

3 phones always connected
2 TV's always connected
1 Blu-ray player always connected
1 PS3 always connected
2 360's always connected
1 laptop always connected
1 ipad2 always connected
1 sonos system (4 separate players) always connected
1 av receiver always connected
2 SKY HD boxes always connected

I'm basically always connected.

Down time in the last 5 years?

1 hour about 4 years ago.







Don't buy used games unless you like price hikes. Don't bother selling yours either.



wick said:

No sale here Microsoft.

Eat a dick.

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Why was this banned?.. LOL !..  was this post edited? or as is.. 

hilarious he got banned for this post.. either that or MS has an account on vgchartz.. and got offended by this post and reported it!.. LOL!