There is one console that requires an internet check at least once every 24 hours, and one console that does not require internet at all

There is one console that has universal console wide DRM for every game, and one console that does not

After knowing just those 2 things, if you say to yourself or another person "They are both doing the same thing" then you are lost and can not be saved

B..But I thought they said ps4 doesn't have DRM and will allow used games..

PS4 won't get the shaft. 3rd parties will put games on consoles that have a decent and growing install base. If the DRM difference between PS4 and Xbone is clear and stark, and this leads to PS4 selling a lot better than Xbone 3rd parties are not going to keep kissing up to MS for long, It'llo be MS that has to keep kissing up to them by paying them more to get exclusive DLC. The mega franchises that sell multi-millions will stay multiplatform and that's really all that matters as far as PS4 sales potential is concerned.

Kotaku is a very unreliable source buddy

no question there @bold
but can you wrap your head around the idea that there are other ways to grab our money? Sony and Nintendo, as platform holders, can negotiate with publishers some other way to bring more cash in their platform other than intrusive DRM...
you can go check my post history, and see that i am pro DRM, because i work in a SW house and know creating SW is hard work, but DRM must be well implemented and work without the consumer ever notice he is there, unless they make something illegal (not illegal to be off-line, to lend a game or sell your disc game(by selling it you must revoke the right to play that game and the new owner must get a new user right permit to use that SW). And the lack of Laws in this matter is disturbing BTW...

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/sony-confirms-no-drm

Your source is outdated. Sony has already confirmed that they won't require any sort of DRM. But, just as with this gen. Publishers have the option to do so. So in Sony's case, nothing changes from this gen.

Very glad you got the point of the thread. Many did not and just came in defense of Sony or argued about the patent itself instead :)

Now, we can still talk about DRM of course!

Regarding your point, I am not disgreeing at all. I think it would be hard to argue that no-DRM is better than DRM for the end user :)

My reality is that, on a personal stand point, it does not bother me that much; and at the same time I really find the fact that you need to connect to the internet once per 24 hours really not as drastic as some seem to believe. I have a lot of game on Steam and it is way more drastic than that... Same for downloadable games on console... I actually see this as an advantage (because you install the game and forget the disc)

Now, if the console makers let us sell back our game online on in-store (and it looks like we will be able to do so), then the only draw drawback is to be able to lend a game disc to a friend... But again, you cannot do that with digital games or most of the PC games today.

This is like the 10th time I have seen a Sony enthusiast link this article to lets take a look at it.

1.) The PlayStation 4 can play games offline without having to be online. This was clarified the day of the PS4's reveal back on February 20th.

That's nice that you can play games online. Of course.. you can on the Xbone as well. If you click the link in the article for "play games offline", you see a dude saying PS4 is not a permanent connection device. Neither is the Xbone.

2.) Sony will not have any mandatory DRM for used games. You can buy, play, trade used games on the PlayStation 4 just as usual. No additional registration fees, pay-walls or internet registration required.

You guys are harping on the "Sony will not have any DRM" part of this comment but are leaving out there "mandatory" part. That is the most crucial part. If publishers are putting DRM on the Xbone, why would they not do it on the PS4? Look at the extremes publishers went to this gen to combat used games. Preorder incentives became ridiculous. When that was done, online passes came about. When that became common use, the online pass even seeped into games that had no online. EA recently got rid of the online pass. Do you think they did in out of the kindness of their heart, or because they have something better (for them) coming down the pipeline?

And this is just another example of no clarity or real answers being taken and interpreted as an actual answer. If you click the link for "buy, play, trade used games on PS4" in the article, you see all the Sony exec really says is "PS4 can play used games". The Xbone can play used games as well.

3.) If you so choose, you can play games from disc, download them from the digital store or remote load them. Sony doesn't mandate any method over the other for multi-format titles.

Sony doesn't mandate it, but it's still up to 3rd party publishers. If EA wants to require you to install and register Battlefield 4, that's how it's going to be. Some people white knighting for Sony also claim this is "no different than PS3". It's not the same as PS3.

4.) Just for extra clarification the PlayStation 4 does not and will not require a constant always-on internet connection.

Xbone does not require an always-on connection either.

That article does nothing but stengthen my point. We don't really know a thing until Sony comes clean. Not going to bother talking about this again until after E3, assuming Sony provides some real answers there.

1. Does the PlayStation 4 always need to be connected to the internet, I asked?

"You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected," he suggested. "The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita."

Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?

"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

INTERNET NOT REQUIRED. COMPLETELY OPTIONAL. YOU ARGUING THIS SHOWS YOU PUTTING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND. NOT AT ALL LIKE THE XBOX1 (Caps so you can see it clearly)

2. Nothing different then whats been availbe this entire generation. The thought that EA is doing it because Sony has something for them is sheer speculation and flawed logic. The Sony exec says more than that. He says that people buy games and expects them to play it anywhere and that is what he expects too. HEAD. IN. SAND

Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it. The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet