MDMAlliance said: Einsam_Delphin said: MDMAlliance said: LemonSlice said: This is one of the biggest troll threads I've seen here so far. He just can't be serious. I mean he's lost the argument in the very first reply. Just read some of the replies he made to me. Yes please do, then you might see how much of a joker this guy is. Oh, and be sure to check out our debacle in the Luigi's Mansion: Glitch Moon thread. I would post a link but it's too much of a hassle on this device. Nice quadruple post.

Thanks! Quadruple post in a row is my record thus far. I wonder how much more I can increase that hehe.

Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: 3DS is one of the few viable glasses-free 3D products in the market. Mainly because, as a portable device, players generally stare at the screen from a fixed angle and from what I like to call "book reading range". There are other Glasses Free 3D devices out there? Well, asside from TVs I mean.

There are glasses-free 3D phones as well.

Einsam_Delphin said: kupomogli said: It's only worth the trouble depending on the game. In my opinion, most games don't utilize the 3D that well. Lords of Shadow Mirror of Fate is a different story. The 3D is done amazingly well, easily the best I've seen on the system. On my replay of the game on hardcore difficulty, I played almost the entire way through with the 3D effect on, only turning it off during the water segments. Isn't Castlevania a 2D sidescroller, yet the 3D still made an impact? I would be most impressed if that's the case, as most sidescrollers I've seen don't benefit much from the 3D.

It's a side scroller, but everything is rendered in 3D.

On Lords of Shadow Mirror of Fate, if you're playing the game in 3D, the room you're in has a lot of depth to it, but also items in the background, whether it's a lamp along the wall, a statue, etc, everything has depth to it.  Like the 3D was designed with everything.  I'm sure you watched the promotional videos during interviews and such, where one video shows a goblin throwing the light magic necklace into the water and it gets carried down stream underground.  It doesn't look too great in 2D, but that same part in 3D with depth added to everything, the necklace actually moves towards you on the screen and then drops down the waterfall and then is carried to where the underground where you later have to retrieve it.  Metal crates  sitting in front of treasure boxes or bodies, while you're pulling the metal crate or pushing it, you actually see the treasure box or body on a different plane, so it's not just moving the crate from overlapping the treasure.

One of the best looking parts in the game with the 3D is when you're standing there with the Mirror of Fate in the background(not very much of a key element in the story, despite the game being named after it.)  But with the 3D effect on, you see each of the statues jutting out from the wall in the background, but if you look into the mirror, you see the games depth carries all the way back into the mirror where it stretches all the way to the wall, which as the player we're technically looking through so we don't see it. 

The 3D on this game just looks so beautiful and if the 3DS game and Vita game has the same graphics, then I'll pick up the 3DS version in hopes that the 3D is good, just because I know there's atleast one game that's impressed me with it.

Dead or Alive Dimensions 3D is also pretty good.  It's got pretty good depth to it as well.  Objects actually come out and aren't flat. 

Super Mario 3D Land is the best after those, and honestly, for being the third best looking 3D effect I've seen, it's really disappointing.  The maps themselves look well done in 3D.  But enemies, objects on the ground, etc.  Most everything in the game aside from the map itself just looks so flat.  It's not like all objects in the game have depth to them like Mirror of Fate and Dead or Alive Dimensions did.   I really didn't care to play this game with the 3D on because playing in 2D was more of an enjoyable experience.

The worst 3D effect on the 3DS, even though it's a good game, was Shinobi.  I liked the game, but the 3D effect only had a little depth for the stage itself.  Everything else was pretty much flat.

@kupomogli:

Now that is an in-depth explanation! Not all of it even shows up when I quote it on my 3DS hehe. I actually just downloaded and played the demo earlier today, er... yesterday, and you are 100% correct on all accounts! When I first got into it it, I actually wasn't even sure if it was a sidescroller until I tried moving north n south lol. Definitely one of if not the best looking 3DS games 3D and graphical wise. Unfortunately though, it's gameplay didn't really stick with me, but if I ever did get that game, I'd try leaving the 3D on more so then not.

F0X said: Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: 3DS is one of the few viable glasses-free 3D products in the market. Mainly because, as a portable device, players generally stare at the screen from a fixed angle and from what I like to call "book reading range". There are other Glasses Free 3D devices out there? Well, asside from TVs I mean. There are glasses-free 3D phones as well.

Well that's interesting, considering it's a phone so why would it need 3D, but then maybe they can play movies or something. Idk, I'm not a phone person. I'll bet they're not selling well though. :L

Einsam_Delphin said: Jumpin said: 3D glasses on a portable system makes very little sense. 1. Glasses free 3D uses a parallax screen which aims the light in certain directions. 3D glasses do not use this style of 3D. 2. 3D glasses are expensive and you would have to carry them around with you. 3. Unless you're one of those people who move around all the time, glasses free 3D isn't a problem. If it is, you can turn it down to reduce image crossover, or turn 3D off. 1. If the 3DS were to use glasses, I'm sure they would use the right 3D method that works with them.   2. They would come with the system. People already carry stuff around with them, 3DS included.   3. I'm already doing that as said a few times already.   It still doesn't fix the problem being that I want to use the 3D.

1. You can't have both, it is one or the other, they are two different styles of 3D.
2. People already carry stuff, true. A typical person who carries a 3DS will already have a phone in one and their 3DS in the other. Putting the glasses in either of those pockets is just bulking up your pockets even further, there might not even be space. Plus they'd be expensive to replace and would probably get scratched or broken while being carried in a pocket.

Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: 3DS is one of the few viable glasses-free 3D products in the market. Mainly because, as a portable device, players generally stare at the screen from a fixed angle and from what I like to call "book reading range". There are other Glasses Free 3D devices out there? Well, asside from TVs I mean. There are glasses-free 3D phones as well. Well that's interesting, considering it's a phone so why would it need 3D, but then maybe they can play movies or something. Idk, I'm not a phone person. I'll bet they're not selling well though. :L

They probably have better 3D cameras than the 3DS. In any case, glasses-free 3D devices in general are expensive and niche, and 3DS appears to be a wonderful exception.

Jumpin said: Einsam_Delphin said: Jumpin said: 3D glasses on a portable system makes very little sense. 1. Glasses free 3D uses a parallax screen which aims the light in certain directions. 3D glasses do not use this style of 3D. 2. 3D glasses are expensive and you would have to carry them around with you. 3. Unless you're one of those people who move around all the time, glasses free 3D isn't a problem. If it is, you can turn it down to reduce image crossover, or turn 3D off. 1. If the 3DS were to use glasses, I'm sure they would use the right 3D method that works with them.   2. They would come with the system. People already carry stuff around with them, 3DS included.   3. I'm already doing that as said a few times already.   It still doesn't fix the problem being that I want to use the 3D.   1. You can't have both, it is one or the other, they are two different styles of 3D. 2. People already carry stuff, true. A typical person who carries a 3DS will already have a phone in one and their 3DS in the other. Putting the glasses in either of those pockets is just bulking up your pockets even further, there might not even be space. Plus they'd be expensive to replace and would probably get scratched or broken while being carried in a pocket.

Why can't you have both? We have 3D and non 3D already so I don't think it'd be difficult to add another similar viewing method. For instance, I believe Youtube has multiple 3D options. There could be a switch on the left side of the 3DS that changes between the two types of 3D. Also, as explained before, there are hard cases for glasses, people usually carry bags of some sort with them, the 3DS/your phone/etc. can also get broken, and if it's really an issue to carry them, the glasses can be left at home.

F0X said: Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: 3DS is one of the few viable glasses-free 3D products in the market. Mainly because, as a portable device, players generally stare at the screen from a fixed angle and from what I like to call "book reading range". There are other Glasses Free 3D devices out there? Well, asside from TVs I mean. There are glasses-free 3D phones as well. Well that's interesting, considering it's a phone so why would it need 3D, but then maybe they can play movies or something. Idk, I'm not a phone person. I'll bet they're not selling well though. :L They probably have better 3D cameras than the 3DS. In any case, glasses-free 3D devices in general are expensive and niche, and 3DS appears to be a wonderful exception.

Trueness, though of course I woulda liked it better if there were no sweet spot, but I guess that wasn't possible yet. Hopefully their next handheld will be sweet spot-less, and it'll work with the then old 3DS games.

Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: Einsam_Delphin said: F0X said: 3DS is one of the few viable glasses-free 3D products in the market. Mainly because, as a portable device, players generally stare at the screen from a fixed angle and from what I like to call "book reading range". There are other Glasses Free 3D devices out there? Well, asside from TVs I mean. There are glasses-free 3D phones as well. Well that's interesting, considering it's a phone so why would it need 3D, but then maybe they can play movies or something. Idk, I'm not a phone person. I'll bet they're not selling well though. :L They probably have better 3D cameras than the 3DS. In any case, glasses-free 3D devices in general are expensive and niche, and 3DS appears to be a wonderful exception. Trueness, though of course I woulda liked it better if there were no sweet spot, but I guess that wasn't possible yet. Hopefully their next handheld will be sweet spot-less, and it'll work with the then old 3DS games.

I would also like a spotless 3DS but that takes far too much love and care.