Microsoft should consider selling Xbox and Bing businesses, says key analyst

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m0ney on 29 May 2013

Oh, another anal-yst opened their mouth. I must admit I envy them and want their job!

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VGKing on 29 May 2013

I agree. They should consider it. The Xbox brand is too valuable though. Who would they sell it to? Who has the money to buy it? Sony doesn't need it, Nintendo doesn't want it....maybe Samsung or Apple.

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kowenicki said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

happydolphin said:

@bold. That makes no sense. They are a huge business with tons of money, and proper separation of their divisions. The xbox is certainly not what's hurting MS' OS market, it's pretty clear that Apple is giving them a hard time period, and I don't think there is much MS can do about it but try to increase their brand affection with the mainstream consumer which, ta-da, the xbox is achieving for them.

@underlined. For example, tell me how exactly Samsung is one of the reasons MS went with the xbox?

@MS OS not enough. That is just bs, you could say that about any company: Sony, Google, Apple all big companies want to diversify and expand so as to mitigate the risk of having all your eggs in one basket, and go fetch the next available piece of pie.

Tell that to the shareholders. MS non OS profits are nothing to them really as far as they are concerned.

Now this is where your ignorance of the actual business of MS is all too transparent

MS is longer only OS centric. You literally do not know what you are talking about.

Revenue of windows division in the last quarter was $14bn of the $55bn total quarterly revenue

Profit from the windows division was 9bn of the 21bn in the quarter. So windows is now less than half of the profits and about a quarter of the revenue.

Are you saying that they dont want that extra $12bn in profit?

On the one hand people like you say they are spreading themselves to thin on the other you say they are doomed becuase PC sales are falling. Its contradictory, ill thought out and plain wrong.

Thank you, I was too lazy to post this.

The point is that MS is growing constantly on a lot of fronts.

EDD is growing and nowhere near the early days (1 billion USD profit per year)
Business division is growing with MS Office 365 (24billion USD profit per year)
Server and Tools (a division he probably never even heard of) is making great steps. (8 billion USD profit per year)
The Windows division is still growing, no matter what people say (14 billion USD profit per year)

Heck if nothing spectacular happens, the online division (Bing) will be posting profits for this year as well.

MS is so much more than just windows.

This quote tree has been shortened by yo_john117. In the future please keep quote trees three quotes total or less.

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happydolphin on 29 May 2013

@Kowen. Out of curiosity what is the source of that non-OS profit?

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VGKing said:
I agree. They should consider it. The Xbox brand is too valuable though. Who would they sell it to? Who has the money to buy it? Sony can't afford it, Nintendo can't afford it either....maybe Samsung or Apple.

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happydolphin said:
@Kowen. Out of curiosity what is the source of that non-OS profit?

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY13/Q3/default.aspx

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DirtyP2002 said:

happydolphin said:
@Kowen. Out of curiosity what is the source of that non-OS profit?

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY13/Q3/default.aspx

I'd prefer not have to read all that if possible, can I get a summary from whoever?

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happydolphin said:

DirtyP2002 said:

happydolphin said:
@Kowen. Out of curiosity what is the source of that non-OS profit?

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/PressReleaseAndWebcast/FY13/Q3/default.aspx

I'd prefer not have to read all that if possible, can I get a summary from whoever?

MICROSOFT CORPORATION

SEGMENT REVENUE AND OPERATING INCOME (LOSS)
(In millions)(Unaudited)

	Three Months Ended March 31,	Nine Months Ended March 31,

	2013	2012	2013	2012
Revenue
Windows Division	$ 5,703	$ 4,633	$ 14,828	$14,248
Server and Tools	5,039	4,531	14,779	13,484
Online Services Division	832	707	2,397	2,132
Microsoft Business Division	6,319	5,842	17,511	17,787
Entertainment and Devices Division	2,531	1,618	8,250	7,818
Unallocated and other	65	76	188	195
Consolidated	$ 20,489	$17,407	$ 57,953	$55,664

Operating income (loss)
Windows Division	$ 3,459	$ 2,979	$ 8,405	$ 9,133
Server and Tools	1,979	1,686	5,839	5,195
Online Services Division	(262)	(480)	(909)	(1,453)
Microsoft Business Division	4,104	3,797	11,321	11,704
Entertainment and Devices Division	342	(228)	958	632
Corporate-level activity	(2,010)	(1,380)	(4,923)	(3,640)
Consolidated	$ 7,612	$ 6,374	$ 20,691	$21,571

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happydolphin on 29 May 2013

DirtyP2002 said: -snip-

Stage does have a point then if we're talking about now. Problem is xbox has existed for 13 years.

Server and Tools is mostly OS-related, I'd imagine, at least to an extent (Hyper-V and whatnot).

What is Microsoft Business Division, that one's interesting.

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