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This is not quite the Xbox One unveiling Microsoft had hoped for.

Almost a week after the technology giant lifted the lid on Xbox One, the company has come under fire for "twisted" features that could potentially gather personal data to be sold to the highest bidder.

The new device, which is expected to launch in Australia before Christmas, includes a Kinect motion camera that is able to track movement. Voice commands such as "Xbox on" can be used to control the console, suggesting the camera and microphone are constantly in standby mode.

Tim Vines, director at Civil Liberties Australia, told GamesFIX that Microsoft has a lot to answer for with a product that has the ability to listen and watch everything a person does.

"People should have the ability to turn off the camera or microphone, even if it limits the functionality of the machine," he said. Vines believes privacy is "all about control".

"Of course, if Microsoft doesn't allow that (control), then people should vote with their wallets and skip the next Xbox."

Vines says Microsoft should be upfront about what it does with data collected by Xbox One.

"Microsoft's new Xbox meets the definition of a surveillance device under some Australian laws, so they need to be upfront and tell customers whether anyone else can intercept their information or remotely access their device," Vines said.

This sentiment is being felt the world over, with Berlin's federal data protection commissioner, Peter Schaar, telling Spiegel Online that Xbox One is nothing more than a monitoring device under the guise of a gaming console.

"The Xbox One continuously records all sorts of personal information about me. My reaction rates, my learning or emotional states. These are then processed on an external server, and possibly even passed on to third parties."

Schaar believes this is a major breach of privacy.

"The fact that Microsoft could potentially spy on my living room is merely a twisted nightmare."

Microsoft aims to bring simplicity to the living room with Xbox One, which it calls a "powerful, all-in-one device of modern architecture."

Just make sure you're not planning world domination in front of it.

http://games.ninemsn.com.au/news/privacy-breach-xbox-one-a-twisted-nightmare



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I wonder what the EU's stance on this is? It would be funny if the device has to drop this function before it's allowed to be on sale. Maybe the law is the only way to solve this DRM problem for the gamers!



kowenicki said:
then Tim Vines is clearly a dick of little intelligence

I wonder if he ever uses Google?

Relevant avatar.



didn't some group from Germany say this as well? it will be interesting to se how the X1 will sell outside the U.S.



kowenicki said:
then Tim Vines is clearly a dick of little intelligence

I wonder if he ever uses Google?


So because he doesn't share your opinion, you have to insult him?



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kowenicki said:
Somini said:
I wonder what the EU's stance on this is? It would be funny if the device has to drop this function before it's allowed to be on sale. Maybe the law is the only way to solve this DRM problem for the gamers!


and what does this have to do with DRM?


I wasn't talking about blocking or restricting used games in this instance. DRM can be used in more than one way.



kowenicki said:
so google glasses will be banned too

as will search data tracking

as will CCTV

as will... etc etc etc.


Neelie Kroes, the one responsible for EU's digital agenda has already questioned Google Glasses always on function for your information.



kowenicki said:
Somini said:
kowenicki said:
so google glasses will be banned too

as will search data tracking

as will CCTV

as will... etc etc etc.


Neelie Kroes, the one responsible for EU's digital agenda has already questioned Google Glasses always on function for your information.

and yet the "cool" media types are lapping up google glasses... odd world isnt it.


it's a good thing politicians aren't cool then! A lot of comapnies have to change their products, software or whatever the law in EU doesn't agree with, before they are allowed to do business in the EU's market. A couple of examples;

Microsoft had to pay a fine (2 times) because they didn't have the option of choosing another browser in Windows

Google had and has to delete a lot of information from their engine as the EU doesn't want it there

Apple has a one year guarantee on their products, but the EU ordered them to make it at least 2 years over here

Facebook has to block gambling ads over here and much more.



This reeks of paranoia.

Innocent until proven guilty. Needs to work for electronics too. Just because it COULD do that, doesnt mean it will do that.



The Germans are also curious about this.

Gonna be an interesting few Months.