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Did the Xbox One conference make PC gaming more appealing?

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pezus said:
oniyide said:
pezus said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
pezus said:
I don't understand exactly what you're asking. It didn't change my opinion on PC gaming at all, no.


My point was that people were saying they would switch to PC gaming because of the Xboxes issues. Problem is even with all the issues the Xbox has right now Xbox gamers still have more gamer rights than PC gamers as far as ownership is concerned. The second anyone believes a digital game truly belongs to them they are sadly mistaken. This is exactly what companies want, to push the anti-consumer agenda. What Microsoft did was a scary omen for console gaming, but gamers own their game as long as its on their console. The problem is putting terms on that ownership is a huge hot button issue that MS will have to answer for. Very anti-consumer.

Difference between PC and console games: You will always have those PC games and can always play them, even if you buy a new PC. Same can't be said for console games. To me, that is more gamer rights as far as ownership is concerned. They are digital, but they are yours and will be so far longer than a single console "lives".

But what about in the future when you update your computer or get a new one and that OS doesnt run older games? This has been an issue for me, moreso than the anything else. I tried to play FF7 PC version but Vista would not run it. There was a work around but it was like 50 freaking steps, not very user friendly.

Some very old games have issues, but they are usually ironed out after some time. Also, Vista was a notoriously bad OS. There's always the option of going back to the previous OS as well, especially when it's plain better for gaming than the newer one.


thats my point, all that is cumbersome and not user friendly. How would someone know if an OS sucks or not? And no i ddint have the option to go back as I only had Vista and it was on a laptop I had bought that came with it.



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kitler53 said:
disolitude said:
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I don't know man... I for one don't think the limitations on next gen games buying trading and selling will be as tight as you say they are.

Microsoft really isnt the one pushing game DRM hard here... they want you to buy the console, subscribe to XBL and use their services...Skype, Skydrive, IE, Bing, Windows ported apps...good to go! Them and Sony are mostly implementing DRM for 3rd parties but at the same time the cannot piss off retail.

I personally believe that Microsoft has 5-10 different DRM scenarios in mind which they are testing with retail and publishig partners and once they find the best solution for everyone they will eveal it to us and how it works.


well i hope they come up with something better than what Nsanity posted. 

i think always online is a mistake.  developing markets just can't guarentee to have internet access and as the undertracking here proves developing markets are pretty big.  hell, one of my co-workers doesn't have his xbox hooked up simply because his gaming room is too far from his router to get a signal.

 

i dunno - in all honest i don't have a lot of room to complain.  i think i've said this before i was more or less planning to go full digital next gen anyways.  being able to download from disc instead of the net isn't really a bad deal for me.  but i recognize i'm also the minority (or at least not the vast majority).  i don't know if you spend any time in the vita thread but it gets hijacked every month or so by someone complaining about digital only releases and their personal objection to non physical media.  that discussion has been going on for years now so it's not like this discussion is brand new or anything.

thats a silly argument considering all retail vita games have a digital equivalent, sounds like complaning just to complain.



oniyide said:
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thats a silly argument considering all retail vita games have a digital equivalent, sounds like complaning just to complain.

the complaint is the otherway around.  a lot of the digital games do not have retail equivalents.  for those that refuse to buy digital there are very few games for vita.



kitler53 said:
oniyide said:
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thats a silly argument considering all retail vita games have a digital equivalent, sounds like complaning just to complain.

the complaint is the otherway around.  a lot of the digital games do not have retail equivalents.  for those that refuse to buy digital there are very few games for vita.

interesting, alot of the games that are digital only arent even full games though. they are mostly the equivalent of XBLA and most games on PSN, they wouldnt have had a retail equivelant anyway.



The best thing about consoles is the simplicity of a pure gaming machine and ability to own physical games without license keys that can be used anywhere at any time. Xbox One seems to lose some of the best aspects of console gaming.

PC's have upgradeable hardware, massive library of games from all years, better graphical performance, open platform, mods and you can use it for work aswell as dozen of other things.

Xbox One does not have these, but instead takes the flaws of PC gaming like license keys and DRM.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:


Your first point was exactly my point. I never said PC was closed.

No, you paid for a license to your PC games. Steam protects your license of use through their system (cloud gaming) which the PS3 and 360 have been using since 2005 and 2006. You essentially own nothing. Physical ownership is the only ownership that matters.

I beg to differ that PC is superior outside of hardware upgrades, open format and being able to mod which I care nothing for truthfully.


Whether we own it or license/rent it is still a grey area as far as I know, as no precedent has been set out in the courts.
Besides, when you buy a game it says "Buy now", not license, not rent, buy. - On that wording alone in allot of European countries the consumer should come out ahead on the basis of false advertising (As they're more inclined to side with the people.).

However, I sure as hell trust Steam/Valve who are a private company whose main objective is not to appease money hungry shareholders over that of Micrososft and Sony who are Public companies who try to gain ever more profits.

As for your last point, please. Do enlighten me in the aspects where a console is superior to that of a PC, just for my own amusement.




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ITT: Steam = PC and OP has no idea how Steam actually works.

Geegeeeeeeeeee.

Yes, the Xbox One conference made PC gaming a lot more appealing in my mind. Then again, most things nowadays make PC gaming more and more appealing every day. =)



mtu9356 said:
The ability to buy and sell used games is becoming less appealing on consoles which was the main advantage to me.


Since when did it become less appealing? You think used games gave consoles an advantage? LOL hotter name games and bigger budgets being console only made consoles have the advantage. Add Japanese games to that and the constant innovations that happen on consoles. PC's stay where they are consoles change themselves up and become new at some point even if they've played the same and bored you for years.



wfz said:
ITT: Steam = PC and OP has no idea how Steam actually works.

Geegeeeeeeeeee.

Yes, the Xbox One conference made PC gaming a lot more appealing in my mind. Then again, most things nowadays make PC gaming more and more appealing every day. =)


I have games on Steam...I don't believe I own them. 



wfz said:
ITT: Steam = PC and OP has no idea how Steam actually works.

Geegeeeeeeeeee.

Yes, the Xbox One conference made PC gaming a lot more appealing in my mind. Then again, most things nowadays make PC gaming more and more appealing every day. =)


Can't wait for PC first party....oh wait...theres zero unity...its third party central. Games that you cant play on consoles make PC more appealing.