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Are you fine if the next Storm actress won't be black?

Yes 26 36.62%
 
No 44 61.97%
 
Total:70
WagnerPaiva said:
Cobretti2 said:
Well I don't think atm there is one good black actress to fit the role. So id settle for a dark latin girl if they need to look elsewhere lol.


There are thousands of amazing black actress waiting for their big break. It is not double standarts at all, there are very little black characters on comics, so it is a good thing to give the white ones to black actors. Not the other way around. Besides, it is also a afirmative gesture, after all, any race that have been through a VERY RECENT slavery, freaking deserves it.

Here in Brazil is the same old crap, we had 300 years of slavering of the black people, and now, the stuppid white people bitch and complaing about any afirmative action, like special standarts to enter at public universities and such.

Equality is to treat the equals as equals, but, when you slave a group for 300 years, you better give them compensation for at least 600 years.

I say that, and I am as white as it gets...


LOL this is a potential hollywood block buster. No one in their right mind is going to give someone a chance at a big break.

Recent slavery? 1865 isn't exactly that recent and more importantly irrelevan to this topic. Hell women were technically slaves for thousands of years till they could vote and had equal rights. How about we compensate them for the next 4000 years. Look at some governement organisations now, they have stpid poicies in place that 50% of the workforce in their organisation needs to be women, WTH happen to BEST PERSON for the JOB? same with acting they should go for the best person for the job. 



 

 

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If Human Torch can be played by a Black Man, I do not see the problem.

Though I am all about keeping with the Comics.



Cobretti2 said:
WagnerPaiva said:
Cobretti2 said:
Well I don't think atm there is one good black actress to fit the role. So id settle for a dark latin girl if they need to look elsewhere lol.


There are thousands of amazing black actress waiting for their big break. It is not double standarts at all, there are very little black characters on comics, so it is a good thing to give the white ones to black actors. Not the other way around. Besides, it is also a afirmative gesture, after all, any race that have been through a VERY RECENT slavery, freaking deserves it.

Here in Brazil is the same old crap, we had 300 years of slavering of the black people, and now, the stuppid white people bitch and complaing about any afirmative action, like special standarts to enter at public universities and such.

Equality is to treat the equals as equals, but, when you slave a group for 300 years, you better give them compensation for at least 600 years.

I say that, and I am as white as it gets...


LOL this is a potential hollywood block buster. No one in their right mind is going to give someone a chance at a big break.

Recent slavery? 1865 isn't exactly that recent and more importantly irrelevan to this topic. Hell women were technically slaves for thousands of years till they could vote and had equal rights. How about we compensate them for the next 4000 years. Look at some governement organisations now, they have stpid poicies in place that 50% of the workforce in their organisation needs to be women, WTH happen to BEST PERSON for the JOB? same with acting they should go for the best person for the job. 


160 years is VERY recent, it is two old people lifetimes, also, the stigma it brings to a race can endure for many many centuries, here in Brazil the prejudice is still REALLY STRONG, and we abolished slavery at 1888.

It is not like slavery ended and everything suddenlly became amazing to black people, they suffered a lot after the freedom, with the prejudice and lack of oportunity.

Well, it is my opinion and I respect yours too.



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

SnakeDrake said:
Has her origin story also changed.

This is a big one.  Although it'd be funny if they kept the same origin story.  It'd be like o_O.



UnitSmiley said:

We have a black president. I think we can stop with the whole affirmitive action thing don't you think?

You say that as if racism ended when Obama was elected.  It in fact got worse, sadly enough.

If people treated people equally, then yes affirmative action should end.  Unfortunately people don't.  You would think each generation gets better, but there are pockets where it doesn't.  I live in a very conservative area, there are no public schools in this town, only private christian schools.  One day I was treated to some high school students offering racists jokes.  When I registered my disapproval, the switched from black racists jokes to Mexican racist jokes.

Sorry, but we haven't moved the bar far enough, in my humble opinion and I'm caucasian.



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Storm played by a non black actress???? LOL. So, next is Tom Hanks playing Martin Luther King or Malcolm X...ridiculous.Denzel Washington playing Hitler in a WWII movie would be hilarious too...



WagnerPaiva said:

I am fine if they give white characters to black actors, not the other way around. There are like 5% of black heroes on comics, to give them to white people would be really stuppid. Giving white characters to black actors is a good way to work around the notorious racism that always existed in Comic books.


Not really. At all. Having a black (or any other race) actor play a white character is just as stupid as having a white (or any other race) actor play, let's say, The Black Panther. It's fucking stupid, and lazy casting, period.

 

Hiring a black actor for a non-black character JUST to say you have a black character in your movie, is moronic and pointless. Why not do that for EVERY ethnicity then? Why not arbitrarily hire hispanic, or Arabic, or Indian, or Asian actors to play parts that don't fit those ethnicities? If it was (and is) stupid for Hollywood to have a longstanding tradition of having white actors play non-white parts in films, then it is JUST as stupid to have non-white actors play white roles "just because". This isn't about racism or a lack of black characters in comics or any other entertainment medium. This is about one thing:

 

Staying true to the fucking source material. And that isn't restricted to race. Hiring a brown-eyed brunnete, for example, to play the RED HAIRED, GREEN EYED Jean Grey? Pretty fucking stupid. Hiring Jessica Alba to play the WHITE, BLONDE HAIRED, BLUE EYED Susan Storm, and just giving her a shitty bleach job and crappy looking blue contacts.......JUST because Jessica Alba has done some action roles before? Pretty fucking dumb. Making Mystique some scaly-skinned broud who walks around stark naked, just because someone probably thought that looked neat, even though it wasn't in the character? Pretty fucking stupid. Having the actor who played Nightcrawler have blue skin (instead of blue FUR), that is covered in "angelic carvings" he's cut into himself, even though that is NOT in the actual character? Pretty fucking stupid. See the trend here?

The POINT here is, that having a white actress play storm, would be just as absolutely retarded as having a black Johnny Storm. WHY would you have a black Human Torch? "Just because"? Just to have a black character in the FF? Then you'd have to make Invisible Woman black too, to make a modicum of sense, and it would STILL be stupid. Having the Kingpin be black was pretty stupid. Know how I know that? Because Michael Clark Duncan himself said in an interview that even though he was happy to get the role, he mentioned to the director that if they were trying to stay true to the comics, why was his character black? If HE can say that, then I'm pretty sure it's a valid point. What if they made Captain Kirk black (or Mexican, or Chinese) in the new Star Trek, just because? Would that be okay? No, it wouldn't, because Kirk is white.

It is a moot point at this juncture that the comics industry, or the movie industry, or the television industry, was white-centric, which they mostly were. The POINT here is, that we're talking about long-standing, established, beloved characters that are known as being one thing, not another. You don't just make Aragorn black because "there aren't any black characters in LOTR". I guess Tolkien must've been a racist too, right? That non-inclusive bastard.

There are plenty of great black characters in comics. Steel, Falcon, Storm, Black Panther, Static, Black Lightning, Bishop, Shard, Deadlock, Blade, Luke Cage, Photon (Female Captain Marvel), Mister Terrific II, Misty Knight, Spawn, Amanda Waller, Amazing-Man, Bumblebee, Herald, Cloak, Synch (from Gen X), Bronze Tiger, Cyborg, Green Lantern John Stewart, Johnny Thunder II, Vixen, Bedlam, Brother Voodoo, G.W. Bridge, Night Thrasher, Rage, Goliath, Nightwatch, The Prowler, Silhouette, Hardware, War Machine, etc., and those are just HERO characters.

GRANTED, there are far more white characters. But again, the POINT is, that any one of those black characters above being played by a non-black actor, would be JUST as stupid as having black actors play non-black parts "just because". Like I said....it's not about race, it's about being true to the source material. And that is something Hollywood seems to have not cared all that much about at all when it comes to comics, for a long time.



I'm fine as long as it doesn't change the origin of the character like Peter Parker is just a guy from Queens he can be black or white but in Storm's case I think she is like from a native African tribe so she can't be white.



i personally hate it...it makes it seem like I should care more about racial stuff than comics



 



no....... i want my storm black....but halle berry destroyed storm unfortunately :(