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crissindahouse said:

VGKing said:

Exactly. You can't take Microsofts word for this. You'll have to watch out for these reports online or take the risk yourself and be an early adopter.

you also have to take the risk as ps4 or tamagotchi buyer. just because the 360 had such a huge problem doesn't mean that the chance is higher for xbox one as for ps4. you just have to look at the product photos to see that they did everything possible to cool it down. not to forget that it want produce so much heat as 360 did even without cooling.

microsoft increased the warranty to 3 years for the 360 when they had those problems and i have still problems to understand why some people bought like 5 or more consoles. everything produced after mid 2009 or something like that was pretty much perfect in build quality. no clue how people managed to destroy so many consoles before this time without getting a free  replacement/repair.

so yes, 360 had huge problems but that has nothing to do with another product just because it's also from this company. 

Well Microsoft has a bad reputation with exceptionally high failure rates for the original 360. Sony doesn't. All their consoles failure rates have been within industry standards. 

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Just because something LOOKS like it will function properly and because Microsoft SAYS it will work fine, doesn't mean it will. Ex-employees have come out and admitted that Microsoft knew about the failure rate before launch. They didn't care, they had to be first. They downplayed the reports of failure rates until they were so common that they really had no choice but to admit they released a faulty product. So yes, it has everything to do with Xbox One as Microsoft has shown that for the sake of being competitive, they will continue as planned.

Just to be clear here, common sense tells me that Microsoft will avoid any type of RROD scenario with Xbox one. Although the common BSOD reports on my Windows 8 laptop are alarming. 



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Jazz2K said:
Ohh not this again... like past Playstations never had problems but people seem to give that a free pass... I don't want a repeat of the red ring that's for sure but seeing how they handled the fiasco by giving 3 years warranty that cost them billions I would be very surprised they don't take this seriously this time... now tell me where are the warranties for the ylod and PS2 disc read error... exactly!

They only handed out those free warranties after years of denying there was even a problem. Did those people who paid to get thier console even get refunds?

The PS3/PS2 failure rates were within industry standards. You have the option to buy extended warranties just like with any other electronic device. Sony wasn't in any way expected to hand out free extened warranties or repairs.

About that PS2 disc read error http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit-6139482
Sony settled the class action lawsuit in order to avoid the time and money a trial would take. Funnily enough, this was back in 2005. If these PS2 disc errors were really that much of a problem, there would have been lawsuits years ago.



Well, I wouldn't expect them to come out and say "Be careful guys! Our new product might break a lot when it first comes out!" But, I doubt MS will have problems on the same scale they did with the 360.



VGKing said:
Jazz2K said:
Ohh not this again... like past Playstations never had problems but people seem to give that a free pass... I don't want a repeat of the red ring that's for sure but seeing how they handled the fiasco by giving 3 years warranty that cost them billions I would be very surprised they don't take this seriously this time... now tell me where are the warranties for the ylod and PS2 disc read error... exactly!

They only handed out those free warranties after years of denying there was even a problem. Did those people who paid to get thier console even get refunds?

The PS3/PS2 failure rates were within industry standards. You have the option to buy extended warranties just like with any other electronic device. Sony wasn't in any way expected to hand out free extened warranties or repairs.

About that PS2 disc read error http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit-6139482
Sony settled the class action lawsuit in order to avoid the time and money a trial would take. Funnily enough, this was back in 2005. If these PS2 disc errors were really that much of a problem, there would have been lawsuits years ago.

PS2 failure rate being  under industry standard? Really?

Anyway, if Xone has problems and MS addresses them like they did with 360 then I see no problem...  no need to be super cautious towards MS but not towards other products.



VGKing said:
Jazz2K said:
Ohh not this again... like past Playstations never had problems but people seem to give that a free pass... I don't want a repeat of the red ring that's for sure but seeing how they handled the fiasco by giving 3 years warranty that cost them billions I would be very surprised they don't take this seriously this time... now tell me where are the warranties for the ylod and PS2 disc read error... exactly!

They only handed out those free warranties after years of denying there was even a problem. Did those people who paid to get thier console even get refunds?

The PS3/PS2 failure rates were within industry standards. You have the option to buy extended warranties just like with any other electronic device. Sony wasn't in any way expected to hand out free extened warranties or repairs.

About that PS2 disc read error http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit-6139482
Sony settled the class action lawsuit in order to avoid the time and money a trial would take. Funnily enough, this was back in 2005. If these PS2 disc errors were really that much of a problem, there would have been lawsuits years ago.

The fact that Sony had a class action lawsuit brought against them pretty much proves that the PS2 had above industry standard fail rates. I thought that everyone already knew that the PS2 had a higher fail rate than it should have had(obviously nowhere near the 360 though).

OT: I'm quite confident that The One will be a very stable console. It definitely seems like MS is being quite careful this time around.



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Instead of RRoD they will Brick your console once the servers shut down.
Even Better!



VGKing said:
Jazz2K said:
Ohh not this again... like past Playstations never had problems but people seem to give that a free pass... I don't want a repeat of the red ring that's for sure but seeing how they handled the fiasco by giving 3 years warranty that cost them billions I would be very surprised they don't take this seriously this time... now tell me where are the warranties for the ylod and PS2 disc read error... exactly!

They only handed out those free warranties after years of denying there was even a problem. Did those people who paid to get thier console even get refunds?

The PS3/PS2 failure rates were within industry standards. You have the option to buy extended warranties just like with any other electronic device. Sony wasn't in any way expected to hand out free extened warranties or repairs.

About that PS2 disc read error http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit-6139482
Sony settled the class action lawsuit in order to avoid the time and money a trial would take. Funnily enough, this was back in 2005. If these PS2 disc errors were really that much of a problem, there would have been lawsuits years ago.

Sorry man, but Sony failure rates were always above industry standards, and that's since the PS1. Sony is known for using low quality optical drives on their systems and on the PS3 most of the "fat" systems out there currently have YLOD.



My OG Xbox works fine after more than a decade, my launch Xbox 360 works fine, and my Xbox 360S works fine.

On the other hand my PS2 broke and my PS3 has had to be repaired

OMG, PS4 to break confirmed!



RazorDragon said:
VGKing said:
Jazz2K said:
Ohh not this again... like past Playstations never had problems but people seem to give that a free pass... I don't want a repeat of the red ring that's for sure but seeing how they handled the fiasco by giving 3 years warranty that cost them billions I would be very surprised they don't take this seriously this time... now tell me where are the warranties for the ylod and PS2 disc read error... exactly!

They only handed out those free warranties after years of denying there was even a problem. Did those people who paid to get thier console even get refunds?

The PS3/PS2 failure rates were within industry standards. You have the option to buy extended warranties just like with any other electronic device. Sony wasn't in any way expected to hand out free extened warranties or repairs.

About that PS2 disc read error http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-settles-ps2-class-action-suit-6139482
Sony settled the class action lawsuit in order to avoid the time and money a trial would take. Funnily enough, this was back in 2005. If these PS2 disc errors were really that much of a problem, there would have been lawsuits years ago.

Sorry man, but Sony failure rates were always above industry standards, and that's since the PS1. Sony is known for using low quality optical drives on their systems and on the PS3 most of the "fat" systems out there currently have YLOD.

Your basing that on? The old PS3 was well within the industry standards.

Ps1 & PS2 not so much. Nowhere near the early 360 consoles mind.

OT: I don't doubt they've learnt their lesson. The 360 failure rate was terrible and cost them heavily so they'll do everything to ensure the hardware is at least up to scratch. I don't see it overheating with that fan and those vents either.



Miguel_Zorro said:
VGKing said:
"It was a chapter that undoubtedly dinged Xbox's reputation, although the fact that the Xbox 360 recently celebrated its 26th consecutive month as the world's best selling console "

America = The World?


It's funny, since Edge Online isn't an American website.

Edge Online never made that claim, that was NeoWin.