the list has only good games

but in all honestly, it is a real american list

Every publication in there is American-based, I believe. I think it was meant to be an American list.

thats just to low of a place for super mario galaxy also there should be 2 for wii since rock band is gonna come out for it

While generally true. This was really the wrong one to make this point on... as their are some issues with some of the judges... and the way the voting went seems like it would allow people to "stack" the deck for games they wanted to win. Which could of been the case for people who for some reason elected to not have their votes shown.

Even if some of these people don't have intentional bias, based on who they work for it's almost definite they are going to have a lot more exposure to some games then others.  Multiplatform games in general are going to benefit when you have "specialty magazines" and other publications that only deal with 1 system regularly.

I do agree it would probably be better if instead of a top 10 games in a 1-10 order they just list 10 games in alphabetical order.

I understand what you're saying but is there even a Nintendo publication that gives ratings to games? Does Nintendo Power do that? If not, I can see why they weren't included (I haven't read a Nintendo Power in almost 20 years).

As for computer games stacking the deck, that's only fair given the nature of most game publications. In case you hadn't noticed, EGM, Game Informer, etc. don't give much notice to PC gaming at all. The list needed a few computer guys to balance the list a bit and IMO, they chose the most obvious publications for voting.

Then they tossed in a few of the non-traditional big boys (USA Today, Yahoo, etc.) to round things out a bit. I have no problems with any of the publications they chose for the panel.

Here you guys go.  GOTY list determined by the largest amalgam of respected video game journalism in the industry.

Title	Plat	Company	Reviews	Avg. Vote	Avg Score
1. Super Mario Galaxy	WII	Nintendo	62	8.9	97.235%
2. The Orange Box	PC	EA Games	30	9.6	96.183%
3. The Orange Box	X360	EA Games	48	9.1	96.079%
4. BioShock	X360	2K Games	85	9.2	95.235%
5. BioShock	PC	2K Games	42	8.3	94.964%
6. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare	X360	Activision	67	8.9	94.149%
7. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare	PS3	Activision	41	7.8	93.432%
8. Halo 3	X360	Microsoft Game Studios	82	8.5	93.357%
9. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion	PS3	Bethesda Softworks	51	7.7	93.216%
10. Rock Band	X360	MTV Games	47	8.2	93.137%
11. Galactic Civilizations II: Dark Avatar	PC	Stardock	24	7.9	92.917%
12. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare	PC	Activision	36	8.2	92.889%
13. God of War II	PS2	SCEA	77	9.0	92.454%
14. Guitar Hero II	X360	RedOctane	56	8.1	91.959%
15. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade	PC	Blizzard Entertainment	45	7.5	91.056%
16. Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition	WII	Capcom	56	8.8	90.995%
17. Final Fantasy VI Advance	GBA	Nintendo	23	8.6	90.891%
18. Rock Band	PS3	MTV Games	23	--	90.835%
19. Crysis	PC	EA Games	52	7.8	90.715%
20. Mass Effect	X360	Microsoft Game Studios	69	9.1	90.713%

There, now can we stop posting every single random "who cares" GOTY list in the universe?  Thanks, the year ended a month ago.  MOVE ON!

What? Mass Effect is TWENTIETH?

BIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

*stomps feet and screams like a 12 year old girl with a skinned knee*

They do. The reason they wern't included though i'd imagine is a lot of the publications have connections with each other. (For example quite a few are comcast subsidiaries.)

The real problem is though that you can't work it like that because of the inherent bias that is going to happen if you do that.

For example, say you were doing this and you took 4 fanboys, 1 Nintendo, 1 360, 1 PC and 1 PS3. The multiplatform titles are going to rule.

By "balancing" for PC they are also throwing everything out of order with the other balance.

Basically Nintendo is getting a poor shake because of lack of multi-platform games and just because it's "different".  1st party games in general get the shaft... though Nintendo did the most just do to the lack of a Nintendo only publication or two.

I mean notice that none of the actual PC games on that list are PC exclusives. As for the nontraditional guys... where there problem lies in that they nominate games like Cooking Mama. (Seriously, the guy from the LA times voted for Cooking Mama.)

The only way for a list like this to really work is basically to use Metacritic or something. (well gamerankings since metacritic weights)

Its a pretty good list overall, all the wii fans crying, have any of you guys even played the other games on the list. I've played most of them and SMG does not even come close to the best, even CoD4 with its broken online on the PS3 is better then SMG, even with everything wrong with Halo3 it blows SMG out of the water.

 Oh, wait, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, and God of War II are not shooters.  And I haven't played Uncharted, but I don't believe that's a shooter either.