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bananaking21 said:
from a business stand point? Sony won by a land slide, why? its simple. sony won the press. sony and ms didnt need to sell the console to gamers now they need to do that right at launch. what they needed to win is the press. Sony won the press over and now they will be talking about how better the PS4 is and how better the event was.
Now until E3 most new about the consoles will be more positive towards PS4 and more negative towards X1

I think you need to check the main stream media and not the dedicated gaming blogs.

Your main stream media is crowing about the Xbox One. 

The gaming media isn't negative as much as uncertain.  Microsoft didn't really offer clarity.  They weren't ready to answer questions that they should have been prepared to provide a consistent, uniform response.  Instead the right hand had no clue what the left hand was doing. 

For Microsoft it was exactly what they wanted.  A general demonstration of what the console can do.  The problem is that everyone was expecting more.  Generally speaking, moe specifics and less ambiguity.

That being said, I think Microsoft did enough.  They could have DEFINITELY done more, but I think they did enough.  The problem now is that E3 becomes hyper-critical to the successful launch of the Xbox One. 

Sony doesn't have this problem.  E3 for Sony will be a cake walk.  1/2 of E3 will be about the games coming to the PS4.  The rest will be divided up between the PS3, and Vita. 



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sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Why do people keep forgetting that Sony showed off Watch Dogs? That was definitely one of the highlights for me.

That being said, Sony's conference wasn't amazing. In fact it was a little too long and had a little bit too much tech demos. It was gamer focused though, Sony knew who would be watching the reveal so they catered to them. Microsoft knew the same people would be watching their reveal, yet they did their best to disappoint gamers.

We went half-way through the show without a single game being shown or even announced. Then the games they did show were some sort of sizzle real from EA Sports combined with buzz words such as "realistic", "experiences" and "content" and the obvious such as next-gen games will have better animation and graphics.(duh!) Quantum Break was the only surprise at the event, although it looks like some sort of Tv Show/Game hybrid which is weird. Forza 5 reveal wasn't impressive. It was expected, it didn't look next-gen and anyone would believe it if you told them it was coming to 360. Call of Duty's new engine didn't look impressive, we've seen current-gen games that look better than that, at least on a graphical level. Without any real gameplay demonstrations, it didn't leave a strong impression.

Just wanna say that PGR5 was expected and Forza 5 wasn't expected to be a launch title. You can really tell the fanbase inquality when GT6 gets unviersal praise and hype, and Forza 5 reveal is dismissed. Sigh.


Zero respect for a race car franchise that was and still is a staple of the turning point of race car games in the 90's and today. GT turned race car games into a culture. Forza was expected, everyone knows MS puts their games on a two year cycle.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Why do people keep forgetting that Sony showed off Watch Dogs? That was definitely one of the highlights for me.

That being said, Sony's conference wasn't amazing. In fact it was a little too long and had a little bit too much tech demos. It was gamer focused though, Sony knew who would be watching the reveal so they catered to them. Microsoft knew the same people would be watching their reveal, yet they did their best to disappoint gamers.

We went half-way through the show without a single game being shown or even announced. Then the games they did show were some sort of sizzle real from EA Sports combined with buzz words such as "realistic", "experiences" and "content" and the obvious such as next-gen games will have better animation and graphics.(duh!) Quantum Break was the only surprise at the event, although it looks like some sort of Tv Show/Game hybrid which is weird. Forza 5 reveal wasn't impressive. It was expected, it didn't look next-gen and anyone would believe it if you told them it was coming to 360. Call of Duty's new engine didn't look impressive, we've seen current-gen games that look better than that, at least on a graphical level. Without any real gameplay demonstrations, it didn't leave a strong impression.

Just wanna say that PGR5 was expected and Forza 5 wasn't expected to be a launch title. You can really tell the fanbase inquality when GT6 gets unviersal praise and hype, and Forza 5 reveal is dismissed. Sigh.


Zero respect for a race car franchise that was and still is a staple of the turning point of race car games in the 90's and today. GT turned race car games into a culture. Forza was expected, everyone knows MS puts their games on a two year cycle. Given the quality dip this generation, I think this is selling on the name alone, the "turismo" name to be exact. This video is old, but dammit these guys knew the future before it happened. Either way, how the reception is to Forza 5 is very undeserved.



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sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Why do people keep forgetting that Sony showed off Watch Dogs? That was definitely one of the highlights for me.

That being said, Sony's conference wasn't amazing. In fact it was a little too long and had a little bit too much tech demos. It was gamer focused though, Sony knew who would be watching the reveal so they catered to them. Microsoft knew the same people would be watching their reveal, yet they did their best to disappoint gamers.

We went half-way through the show without a single game being shown or even announced. Then the games they did show were some sort of sizzle real from EA Sports combined with buzz words such as "realistic", "experiences" and "content" and the obvious such as next-gen games will have better animation and graphics.(duh!) Quantum Break was the only surprise at the event, although it looks like some sort of Tv Show/Game hybrid which is weird. Forza 5 reveal wasn't impressive. It was expected, it didn't look next-gen and anyone would believe it if you told them it was coming to 360. Call of Duty's new engine didn't look impressive, we've seen current-gen games that look better than that, at least on a graphical level. Without any real gameplay demonstrations, it didn't leave a strong impression.

Just wanna say that PGR5 was expected and Forza 5 wasn't expected to be a launch title. You can really tell the fanbase inquality when GT6 gets unviersal praise and hype, and Forza 5 reveal is dismissed. Sigh.

Forza 5 reveal is kind of dismissed because I think people are burnt out on it. There were 4 Forza games released on the 360 in its lifetime, its the same thing pretty much every 2 years. Heck, a new Forza has come out now for 3 years in a row, 2011, 2012, and now 2013. It is becoming the next Assassins creed where sure it will sell, but eventually people will get tired of it. Now, how many Gran Turismos have come out in the Ps3's lifetime? One. Gran Turismo, over the course from 2005-2013, has seen only 3 releases. Compare that to Forza which has been released, in that same time period, 2005-2013, 6 times. Gran Turismo is always a special thing when it comes around because nobody expects it, while people know that MS will continue to milk Forza every year. Heck, look at the graphics between GT6 and Forza 5. GT6 is much better looking, and it is a Ps3 game compared to a Next Gen Console. I can agree with you on PGR5 being expected and not Forza 5, but we all knew that Forza 5 was eventually going to come sooner or later, and looks like it came sooner. 



 

KingKazuma34 said:
sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Why do people keep forgetting that Sony showed off Watch Dogs? That was definitely one of the highlights for me.

That being said, Sony's conference wasn't amazing. In fact it was a little too long and had a little bit too much tech demos. It was gamer focused though, Sony knew who would be watching the reveal so they catered to them. Microsoft knew the same people would be watching their reveal, yet they did their best to disappoint gamers.

We went half-way through the show without a single game being shown or even announced. Then the games they did show were some sort of sizzle real from EA Sports combined with buzz words such as "realistic", "experiences" and "content" and the obvious such as next-gen games will have better animation and graphics.(duh!) Quantum Break was the only surprise at the event, although it looks like some sort of Tv Show/Game hybrid which is weird. Forza 5 reveal wasn't impressive. It was expected, it didn't look next-gen and anyone would believe it if you told them it was coming to 360. Call of Duty's new engine didn't look impressive, we've seen current-gen games that look better than that, at least on a graphical level. Without any real gameplay demonstrations, it didn't leave a strong impression.

Just wanna say that PGR5 was expected and Forza 5 wasn't expected to be a launch title. You can really tell the fanbase inquality when GT6 gets unviersal praise and hype, and Forza 5 reveal is dismissed. Sigh.

Forza 5 reveal is kind of dismissed because I think people are burnt out on it. There were 4 Forza games released on the 360 in its lifetime, its the same thing pretty much every 2 years. Heck, a new Forza has come out now for 3 years in a row, 2011, 2012, and now 2013. It is becoming the next Assassins creed where sure it will sell, but eventually people will get tired of it. Now, how many Gran Turismos have come out in the Ps3's lifetime? One. Gran Turismo, over the course from 2005-2013, has seen only 3 releases. Compare that to Forza which has been released, in that same time period, 2005-2013, 6 times. Gran Turismo is always a special thing when it comes around because nobody expects it, while people know that MS will continue to milk Forza every year. Heck, look at the graphics between GT6 and Forza 5. GT6 is much better looking, and it is a Ps3 game compared to a Next Gen Console. I can agree with you on PGR5 being expected and not Forza 5, but we all knew that Forza 5 was eventually going to come sooner or later, and looks like it came sooner. 

Funny now how GT5: Prologue and GT PSP no longer are considered games in the franchise.....

Saying graphics on GT6 look better tehn Forza 5.......I have no response to such an illogical statement.



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Mass market won't buy ps4s and xbox ones!

These consoles will be 400 dollares, do you remember that?



dane007 said:


"None of their demos were actually in game demo, they were in engine cinematics" same with sony ps4 reveal. The only actual in game gameplay footage was Killzone 4 and knack. Cod did show in game graphics .Activision said it . Forza 4 trailer looked plausible . But then what i am trying to say is that neither actually showed in game graphics taht we as gamers will get to see and control. They were all just fancy trailes and tech demos. Only a small handful of actual gameplay footage were shown from wither companies.  Well thats fine. You are entitled to an opinion but its not fact as opinion does not equal fact. There wer eplenty watching online and people like me as true gamers will just buy all of them and get th ebest of all three worlds :)


Again...no gameplay, they didnt come prepared.



HeavenlyWarrior said:
Mass market won't buy ps4s and xbox ones!

These consoles will be 400 dollares, do you remember that?


MS got the mass market to save their rears with Kinect Xbox Bundles. It saved their 2011-2012 sales fourth quarters.



dane007 said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Sony showed games that is actually in game footage without even showing the box. Microsoft in the other hand showed the box but no in game footage.. They showed more of tv and sports and 30mins of CoD. Not to mention the CoD part wasn't even in game footage either.


The only in game footage wa sknack and killzone4. teh rest were tech demo whihc is worthless as teh final games using teh engine won't look that goo d. not even close. Plus  killzone company tend to bullshit their graphics when they reveal for new machine cough kz2  so relly i only saw knack for me and teh graphics for knack was nothign special in my opinion. Not saying Ms did any better. Both in my opinion were average reveals. 

Tech demos are not worthless if they actually use the hardware that your games will be ran on. If you really think Killzone 2 did not look better than the e3 trailer they showed than your eyes need to be checked. It was widely known that the graphics looked almost as good even better than it did in that video. Cod trailer that MS showed was NOT in game graphics. Activision could say it was, but until we see ACTUAL GAMEPLAY, meaning someone demoing it in front of us, then im pretty sure we can see if it is actual in game graphics or not. Battlefield 4 looks much better anyways. However if you are still hyped about an engine that is going to the look the same as it did on the 360 and ps3 then go ahead and be excited. I dont know why you praise it considering its going to also be on Ps3 and Ps4. 



 

sales2099 said:
KingKazuma34 said:
sales2099 said:
VGKing said:
Why do people keep forgetting that Sony showed off Watch Dogs? That was definitely one of the highlights for me.

That being said, Sony's conference wasn't amazing. In fact it was a little too long and had a little bit too much tech demos. It was gamer focused though, Sony knew who would be watching the reveal so they catered to them. Microsoft knew the same people would be watching their reveal, yet they did their best to disappoint gamers.

We went half-way through the show without a single game being shown or even announced. Then the games they did show were some sort of sizzle real from EA Sports combined with buzz words such as "realistic", "experiences" and "content" and the obvious such as next-gen games will have better animation and graphics.(duh!) Quantum Break was the only surprise at the event, although it looks like some sort of Tv Show/Game hybrid which is weird. Forza 5 reveal wasn't impressive. It was expected, it didn't look next-gen and anyone would believe it if you told them it was coming to 360. Call of Duty's new engine didn't look impressive, we've seen current-gen games that look better than that, at least on a graphical level. Without any real gameplay demonstrations, it didn't leave a strong impression.

Just wanna say that PGR5 was expected and Forza 5 wasn't expected to be a launch title. You can really tell the fanbase inquality when GT6 gets unviersal praise and hype, and Forza 5 reveal is dismissed. Sigh.

Forza 5 reveal is kind of dismissed because I think people are burnt out on it. There were 4 Forza games released on the 360 in its lifetime, its the same thing pretty much every 2 years. Heck, a new Forza has come out now for 3 years in a row, 2011, 2012, and now 2013. It is becoming the next Assassins creed where sure it will sell, but eventually people will get tired of it. Now, how many Gran Turismos have come out in the Ps3's lifetime? One. Gran Turismo, over the course from 2005-2013, has seen only 3 releases. Compare that to Forza which has been released, in that same time period, 2005-2013, 6 times. Gran Turismo is always a special thing when it comes around because nobody expects it, while people know that MS will continue to milk Forza every year. Heck, look at the graphics between GT6 and Forza 5. GT6 is much better looking, and it is a Ps3 game compared to a Next Gen Console. I can agree with you on PGR5 being expected and not Forza 5, but we all knew that Forza 5 was eventually going to come sooner or later, and looks like it came sooner. 

Funny now how GT5: Prologue and GT PSP no longer are considered games in the franchise.....

Saying graphics on GT6 look better tehn Forza 5.......I have no response to such an illogical statement.

We were talking about the main series of each franchise? I dont consider GT5: Prologue a main series because it pretty much is a demo of what is to come in the full game, while GT Psp I do not consider because it is not on Sonys main console. And I know you do not because you probably have not even looked at the GT6 trailer in 1080p 60FPS yet. Come back when you do, im pretty sure many people share my same voice in that.