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sergiodaly on 23 May 2013
BenVTrigger said:

At the PS4 conference they showed

Knack - Which looks like it could be a decent little platformer

Killzone - Looked great but was expected and nothing revolutionary

Infamous Second Son -same as Killzone

Drive Club - could be a good racer. Not much was shown

Diablo - Which will be multi platform

Destiny - multiplat

Deep Down - likely multiplat

Square Enix - Lol

And good specs.

MS showed a new core IP from Remedy, an improved Kinect, the actual console, a new great controller, a sequel to the biggest gaming franchise in the world with exclusive content, a highlight real of the biggest sports games on a new engine with exclusive content, Forza 5 sequel to the highest average Meta racer ever, 15 exclusives in the first year, NFL partnership, Halo TV show, cool media features.

you said: above
i can do the opposite... just to show it works both ways... not bashing MS or defending SONY, its just a exercise...
Lets go...

At the XB One conference they showed

Media feat  - witch look kind of cool

Forza - Looked great but was expected and nothing revolutionary

Quantum Break - could be a good game. Not much was shown

sports games by EA - Which will be multi platform

COD - multiplat

NFL partnership - is huge is US but useless in the rest of the world

specs were slim on info

Sony showed a new IP by Japan Studios (exclusive), a new great controller, 2 new IP (watchdogs and destiny) one of them that won most of the awards from E3 2012 with exclusive content on both, highlight of several games of well establish franchises in the playstation family, Gaikai details, some other games and tech demos from high profile developers/publishers, social network features, Vita/other devices connectivity/stream games capabilities witch are cool.


rest my case...

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think-man on 23 May 2013

I didn't fall asleep during the Sony conference that's the difference.

Now when I can't get to sleep at night ill just put on the Microsoft conference :)



 

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think-man on 23 May 2013
NEET said:
I thought the PS4 reveal was pretty awful to be honest just basically more of the same, while next box looks like it's going to offer something different. ATM the PS4 gets a MEH from me while Xbox one I am pretty interested in what else it can do.

To be honest I think MS is more on the ball ATM because to be frank I don't think more of the same type gaming is really going to cut it with the state the markets in.

Yeah I get what you mean, Im totally keen to do this all day:



 

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dane007 on 23 May 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
dane007 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
dane007 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ithis said:
The PS4 enthusiasts say it was amazing I guess.
There was one thing though. Eurogamer/Didital Foundry was speculating a few weeks before the reveal that 8GB of GDDR5 is out of the question because nobody did that before and it would be too expensive and it's basically not happening. In light of that, the announcement that the PS4 will carry 8GB od GDDR5 was quite amazing at the time.
Other that that no, there wasn't anything unexpected or amazing. I hope they still have something amazing for E3.


No one said Sonys show was amazing but they fulfill the objective to show what next gen entails for videogames. Microsoft failed on all fronts with that objective. Microsoft had a better showing for being an entertainment console, but my family already has the dish network and an Xbox that is dependent on a Kinect is not always my bag. I like Dance Central but thats about the only thing I like about Kinect because I dance.

Prior to the release they di dsay e3 willb be all about games not th e reveal so i don't kwno what people were expecting if they knew teh reveal won't be about games lol

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Sony showed part of the OS actual live demos and showed us how next gen will work and I am sure they'll still school MS in first party development to boot at E3 but I am sure MS will bring it (For the first time in their lives). They did it this gen and they'll do it again. Games should always be expected of a company that invests in the gaming experience. If not...question their motives.


Showing tech demos of what can be doen is pointless because the games made for it won't come close to that visual fidelty . Even at the end of its cycle teh graphics will nto come to that quality. Kz tech demo that they use  for kz 2 has not been achieved at all. not even close. plus the trailer from square enix. we all knwo the ff games using the engien won't have real time graphics like that. CG  moveis may be. Demo from capcom that looked too good to eb actual graphics. Pc would be  the best platform or the closest oen to achive the graphoics not Ps4 of Xone. the one by quantic dream was just  a tech demo which i scool but doesn't mean anythig as its not gameplay graphics running in real tiem thast shown. Sony showed mainly the controller and teh shared function of how it will work if a user were to pess it.  Ms did the same with kinect and how it woudl work with multitaskign and so on. Aprt from few extra demos and tech demos both had teh same reval average reveal . Don't forget sony reveal was two hours and ms only had one . if ms had teh extra hour i am sure they would have squeezed in few more trailers deos or techdemos. The best is to wait for e3 and see with teh games tehy who , which machine is better :) MS said e3  will be about ganes and they said 5 exclsuives in one year. so they haven't forgotten teh core part which is games. Wait for e3 is all i am going ot say lol


What....are...you..talking about? MS showed absolutely nothing. Sony showed what next gen will look like. Thats the point. Sonys only mistake was not showing the console. Everyone had to excuse MS for their affinity for casuals over gamers so they granted them the one show to show off the entertainment features of the Xbox One. Sony never gets carried away with that, but it doesn't mean they wont pander to casuals once in a while. 

P.S.

MS said they are showing off 16 exclusives, which means the majority will be Kinect, third party made or XBLA. There will be like four to five actual AAA games outside of Forza 3, but yes let us wait for E3.


They showed footage of forza 4 , they showed gameplay in game graphics of COD (Ps i hate this garbage lol) and ea showed how sports game could possibly look like using their ifnity engine and they showed trailers for all their sports game. Were you watching the reveal as well lol.  Considerign they said it will be about the hardware they still manage to show all of it in ahour. not great but  its how it is.  Well the casuals paidoff fro abox 360 an dkinnect. and what do you consider as hardcore as the definition in itself differs from individuals. 

 

Anyways besides teh point in e3 would be the deciedr for people aas to which machine they will buy. 

"MS said they are showing off 16 exclusives, which means the majority will be Kinect, third party made or XBLA."  You are making an assumption without actual evidence LOL. wheres the proof for that  :)



Kresnik on 23 May 2013

Haven't had time to read through the whole thread so I might just be repeating what a load of people have already said, but I agree with the last line of Rol's post in the first page.

It's relative. One wasn't mind blowing and the other abysmal. It was more like one was average and the other was bad, making it seem like the "average" one was amazing by comparison.



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NEET on 23 May 2013
think-man said:
NEET said:
I thought the PS4 reveal was pretty awful to be honest just basically more of the same, while next box looks like it's going to offer something different. ATM the PS4 gets a MEH from me while Xbox one I am pretty interested in what else it can do.

To be honest I think MS is more on the ball ATM because to be frank I don't think more of the same type gaming is really going to cut it with the state the markets in.

Yeah I get what you mean, Im totally keen to do this all day:


And yes some of my best gaming moments this GEN where while pissed screwing around with my wife and friends with the so called "casual" WII, the fact is the market as it is ATM isn't going to support dedicated gaming consoles for much longer and MS has the right idea about branching out and offering something that will appeal to a wider audience.



S.T.A.G.E. on 23 May 2013
dane007 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
dane007 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
dane007 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ithis said:
The PS4 enthusiasts say it was amazing I guess.
There was one thing though. Eurogamer/Didital Foundry was speculating a few weeks before the reveal that 8GB of GDDR5 is out of the question because nobody did that before and it would be too expensive and it's basically not happening. In light of that, the announcement that the PS4 will carry 8GB od GDDR5 was quite amazing at the time.
Other that that no, there wasn't anything unexpected or amazing. I hope they still have something amazing for E3.


No one said Sonys show was amazing but they fulfill the objective to show what next gen entails for videogames. Microsoft failed on all fronts with that objective. Microsoft had a better showing for being an entertainment console, but my family already has the dish network and an Xbox that is dependent on a Kinect is not always my bag. I like Dance Central but thats about the only thing I like about Kinect because I dance.

Prior to the release they di dsay e3 willb be all about games not th e reveal so i don't kwno what people were expecting if they knew teh reveal won't be about games lol

T


Sony showed part of the OS actual live demos and showed us how next gen will work and I am sure they'll still school MS in first party development to boot at E3 but I am sure MS will bring it (For the first time in their lives). They did it this gen and they'll do it again. Games should always be expected of a company that invests in the gaming experience. If not...question their motives.


Showing tech demos of what can be doen is pointless because the games made for it won't come close to that visual fidelty . Even at the end of its cycle teh graphics will nto come to that quality. Kz tech demo that they use  for kz 2 has not been achieved at all. not even close. plus the trailer from square enix. we all knwo the ff games using the engien won't have real time graphics like that. CG  moveis may be. Demo from capcom that looked too good to eb actual graphics. Pc would be  the best platform or the closest oen to achive the graphoics not Ps4 of Xone. the one by quantic dream was just  a tech demo which i scool but doesn't mean anythig as its not gameplay graphics running in real tiem thast shown. Sony showed mainly the controller and teh shared function of how it will work if a user were to pess it.  Ms did the same with kinect and how it woudl work with multitaskign and so on. Aprt from few extra demos and tech demos both had teh same reval average reveal . Don't forget sony reveal was two hours and ms only had one . if ms had teh extra hour i am sure they would have squeezed in few more trailers deos or techdemos. The best is to wait for e3 and see with teh games tehy who , which machine is better :) MS said e3  will be about ganes and they said 5 exclsuives in one year. so they haven't forgotten teh core part which is games. Wait for e3 is all i am going ot say lol


What....are...you..talking about? MS showed absolutely nothing. Sony showed what next gen will look like. Thats the point. Sonys only mistake was not showing the console. Everyone had to excuse MS for their affinity for casuals over gamers so they granted them the one show to show off the entertainment features of the Xbox One. Sony never gets carried away with that, but it doesn't mean they wont pander to casuals once in a while. 

P.S.

MS said they are showing off 16 exclusives, which means the majority will be Kinect, third party made or XBLA. There will be like four to five actual AAA games outside of Forza 3, but yes let us wait for E3.


They showed footage of forza 4 , they showed gameplay in game graphics of COD (Ps i hate this garbage lol) and ea showed how sports game could possibly look like using their ifnity engine and they showed trailers for all their sports game. Were you watching the reveal as well lol.  Considerign they said it will be about the hardware they still manage to show all of it in ahour. not great but  its how it is.  Well the casuals paidoff fro abox 360 an dkinnect. and what do you consider as hardcore as the definition in itself differs from individuals. 

 

Anyways besides teh point in e3 would be the deciedr for people aas to which machine they will buy. 

"MS said they are showing off 16 exclusives, which means the majority will be Kinect, third party made or XBLA."  You are making an assumption without actual evidence LOL. wheres the proof for that  :)


None of their demos were actually in game demo, they were in engine cinematics. In essence they never showed anything concrete. 

As for the people who were MS were actually trying to appeal to at their conference...none of them were actually watching. Gamers had to watch a show that was not meant to them. At least they got it out of the way because this is what MS E3 has been for the past three years.

As for my assumptions about MS games, I am going off of prior knowledge of what MS finds to be important. Kinect> Cheap development> AAA titles.



think-man on 23 May 2013
NEET said:
think-man said:
NEET said:
I thought the PS4 reveal was pretty awful to be honest just basically more of the same, while next box looks like it's going to offer something different. ATM the PS4 gets a MEH from me while Xbox one I am pretty interested in what else it can do.

To be honest I think MS is more on the ball ATM because to be frank I don't think more of the same type gaming is really going to cut it with the state the markets in.

Yeah I get what you mean, Im totally keen to do this all day:


And yes some of my best gaming moments this GEN where while pissed screwing around with my wife and friends with the so called "casual" WII, the fact is the market as it is ATM isn't going to support dedicated gaming consoles for much longer and MS has the right idea about branching out and offering something that will appeal to a wider audience.

Some of my best moments this gen have also been while I was pissed screwing around with my wife.

Jokes aside.

All this means really is that xbox one will be the new Wii which is fine for casuals but I wouldnt go anywhere near the thing, and if sony took the same path Id just go full time PC gamer.



 

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bananaking21 on 23 May 2013

from a business stand point? Sony won by a land slide, why? its simple. sony won the press. sony and ms didnt need to sell the console to gamers now they need to do that right at launch. what they needed to win is the press. Sony won the press over and now they will be talking about how better the PS4 is and how better the event was.
Now until E3 most new about the consoles will be more positive towards PS4 and more negative towards X1



Subie_Greg on 23 May 2013

Why would this E3 be different than the last 3 for Microsoft?