I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before but me liking Halo (considering it is one of my favorite franchises) more than GT isn't exactly a secret.  Has nothing to do with a company.

And if you look at my very first comment, please tell me what this says. 
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5351705

So please don't come in here and say I said anything against GT.

EDIT:  Ive mentioned before that it is a few people that are like this.  Not a bunch.  And yes you have been on my wall recently with you sarcasm as you are now.

I made a thread about this.  There is multple ways to look at it.  no way is right or wrong. This whole discussion will always end up nowhere because they are both huge(Similar).  It has become a petty fight by this point among fans.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160267&page=1#

1. )  It's not irrelevant.  The way that 'profit' is obtained is relative to outside factors beyond intrinsic popularity.  Halo succeeds with heavy marketing campaigns.  Other franchises succeed without heavy marketing campaigns (Mario , Gran Turismo just for example).  

2.)  Sure it does.  Having the ability to reach across multiple demographics is a huge factor in size and scope of a franchise.  Mario is a huge franchise and always will be for that factor alone.  Regardless of what the last iteration, did or didn't sell.  We could have said that 'Mario was a dying game' back in the Gamecube days with the somewhat mediocre (definitely lowest) sales of Mario Sunshine and the Mario franchise.  The fault with that logic is it ignores the potential for an easy rebound due to this factor.  (As we see in the Wii generation the transformation).

3.)  I don't believe Halo 4 will continue tracking above 3 or if it does, I don't believe it's a completely accurate indicator of the brand power. Moreso I believe the purchasing power only exists because of the game starved Xbox 360 fanbase in 2012.  

4.) It's more important to the company (Than GT to Sony), the fans (Than GT to PS3 owners), and North Americans.  That's where the comparison stops though. The same argument could be positioned for Gran Turismo (Everywhere else in the world) and the reason it's not as important to Sony is because Sony has never tied itself down as much as Nintendo or Microsoft to one singular brand entity.  

5.)   Not really, it's fairly clear in the context of this thread.  Gran Turismo has sold more units World Wide and I would imagine to more unique users.  That alone can tell you that the franchise is definitely bigger than Halo (Globally).   However,  on a North American business perspective - Halo represents a better meal ticket.  (Depending on how whoring out the franchise effects profit).  On a global business perspective -  It's a pretty close race that I would probably give to Gran Turismo.  

Who said about companies? 

And who said about you attacking GT? Please don't put words in my mouth. 

I actually just tried to quote because you are starting to get off topic and I was also wondering why you didn't include GOW:A . My  question is what's the point of bringing UC and GOW in this thread? To show how big HALO is? To have an E-peen contest? because I don't see the point of bringing up those 2 games. 

Anyway, what I am geting here is that I am not allowed to disagree with you? If I disagree with you, I am attacking you? The problem with you is that if people tries to disagree with you you feel that they are attakcing you. I am having a fun time having cherry picking debate with you until that off topic wall stuff. I am having a light hearted debate with you even though we all know that we are both "cherry picking". I even tried to be "on topic" when I only mentioned GT but then again you love to go off topic all the time and take things more personal.

Please practice what you preach on your last sentence.

Well the only time that matters in a discussion like this is the present and right now the answer is clearly Halo.

-_-  No I have disagreements with plenty of people and then move on.  It is the people who follow me such as Hynad and Deyon who aggravates me.  

If you want to disagree with me cool.  I've already stated that they are both huge and depends on how you want to look at things.  i can't say anything else on the matter.  I wouldn't have replied to Turkish if he didnt say something about bundles and more = most.  But here you are trying to sway me for what?  Carl and Jay is like this as well, how they think they have everybody figured out and that they do nothing wrong.  Then you accuse me of going off-topic when you are going off-topic as well.

If you think im going off-topic then report me instead.  If you don't want to report me confront me outside of a thread instead of wasting everybody's time by going off-topic.

You mentioned Uncharted and GOW and you are not going off topic? What those two game even have to do with this thread? lol

I was off topic  yes I didn't even denied it because you were off topic in the first place but when I tried to be "ON TOPIC" you try to sway the the topic again away from the thread. You are really funny guy, You are something. ahahaha. 

Laslty, Practice what you preach. Don't waste our time posting off topic post by mentioning games that doesn't have to do with this thread.

HALO HALO HALO!

1. Doesn't matter. We were discussing profit. More profit is more profit. If you want to discuss "profit relative to outside factors beyond intrinsic popularity", then fine, but that's a different topic since we weren't talking about that.

2. A game's "bigness" doesn't remain stagnant throughout it's entire lifespan. It changes. Mario was a smaller game on the gamecube. Call of Duty was relatively small on the PS2. As time went on, they grew to be bigger. And as they grew, then it made sense to call them big. It makes no sense to say Call of Duty was always a big game on the PS2 merely because it was big on the PS3 and 360. Similarly, it makes no sense to say GT is bigger than Halo solely because it has potential to become bigger. 

Furthermore, your argument that GT has more potential to grow bigger is flawed. Just because something reaches more types of people doesn't mean it has more potential to grow. For every market that GT could grow in, there's a market that Halo could grow in. You could say GT could become stronger in America, but one could use the same leap of faith to say Halo could grow in Europe. There's no advantage that GT has ove Halo here. Secondly, GT sales have been almost completely stagnant since it relased; so the likelihood of it fullfilling its potenial is not so high. 

3. My point was not about brand power, it was about audience size. And if Halo 4 outsells Halo 3, then it's safe to say it has a larger audience size. You can believe Halo 4 will begin to track under 3 if you want, but the numbers are against you.

5. They are about even in terms of unique users. 

Fact is, if this thread started on the 360 board, the thread would be locked, and OP banned.