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Farsala said:
Yeah, I do not really understand how this site which uses official sources does not actually use those official sources lol.

Huh? When did that happen? This site uses past data and mathematical formulas to estimate current trends in hw sales. For software, it's pretty much rumours and a very few individual sources. I'd say if the numbers are within 10-15% in hw and 20-25% in sw then it's a good week...



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its becoming ridiculous now. hardware and software both off but can be easily fixed because we have official sources but vgchartz want to go by their own numbers instead.



Good luck with the thread. Although your estimates are a little biased and its unlikely anything will happen, it's certainly an issue that should be resolved going into the new generation.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Looks at username....looks at implications for if what username suggests...laughs as knows what username is up to.

But respect to you for putting it in a reasoned way, does make you ask questions, shipped data has been out in some of those cases for god damn ages!

edit - and you're likely correct although possibly not to the extent that your estimate ;)



pezus said:
^Please give us your estimates since you think his are biased

Can't really be bothered to be completely honest with you. :)

I don't think his post is biased, I think the OP has an agenda, but there's nothing evil wrong with that if he has the evidence/data to back that up, which he does. But that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to point out that the post amuses me. It's usual VGChartz form to say X is wrong and therefore Y is true...but in this case that hasn't happened. Good to see.

 

...actually, disregard that, though it was LivingMetal who made the post. Maybe that will make more sense.

EDIT - It's a veiled compliment really.



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With the recent numbers in, one can say the PS3 has passed or is about to pass the 360 WW in sales since It's already passed the 360 in shipment numbers.

But I'd REALLY like the site to adjust numbers accordingly once sources can confirm x sold x amount of units. It's not unprofessional to admit to mistakes and/or adjust accordingly to data.

So yeah, being that the site is for keeping records of sales It's not much to ask. I'd also like for someone to go back and edit the data base of old games/systems and get as much sales data put into the site as possible.



It's just that simple.

pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
Whilst this thread has some decent points in the OP and is therefore valid, there have followed some silly claims and demands based on nothing concrete. This totally undermines the thread and turns it in to a free for all fanboy wish list if we aren't careful.

Stick to the facts.


Like?


Take my post for what it is. It doesn't demand a response, especially from the likes of you. 

Actually, it does demand some proof. What are the silly claims?

No it really doesn't.

You and everyone else here is more than capable of understanding exactly what he measn.



MonstaMack said:
With the recent numbers in, one can say the PS3 has passed or is about to pass the 360 WW in sales since It's already passed the 360 in shipment numbers.

But I'd REALLY like the site to adjust numbers accordingly once sources can confirm x sold x amount of units. It's not unprofessional to admit to mistakes and/or adjust accordingly to data.

So yeah, being that the site is for keeping records of sales It's not much to ask. I'd also like for someone to go back and edit the data base of old games/systems and get as much sales data put into the site as possible.


Obviously this will all happen in due course if correct.

It isn't that good that it's not happened yet since this is you know what the site is all about, but it is what it is and it's not exactly likely if true that the numbers will be just left as they are.



Is there a reason people are posting that the numbers are biased, yet give neither a reason why or there own estimates? Can I assume you have no other reasons other than wishful thinking? Yea, I think I'll go with that.

 Seriously, if you can convince me with LOGIC AND FACTS, I'm more than open to changing them. It would only help the thread be more accurate/credible.



thismeintiel said:

Is there a reason people are posting that the numbers are biased, yet give neither a reason why or there own estimates? Can I assume you have no other reasons other than wishful thinking? Yea, I think I'll go with that.

 Seriously, if you can convince me with LOGIC AND FACTS, I'm more than open to changing them. It would only help the thread be more accurate/credible.

Well, mainly the fact that the 3DS is outselling the Wii U by around 5:1, and yet only has 2x as much stock on shelves yet both are "close to reality" for one. That and the fact that VGC is saying the PS3 is outselling the 360 also by around 50% on a weekly basis, and yet should for some reason have the same amount of stock on shelves. This seems unlikely; I would imagine the PS3 would have more stock on shelves, closer to 1.5mil (giving a supply of around 11 weeks, compared to the 14 weeks if we use the 1.2mil for the 360. If we look at 12 weeks being about right, it would mean the Wii U would have around 400k on shelves and the 3DS 1.4mil, though admitaddly handhelds are slightly different so we can't read much into that).

In addition, your prediction that the PS2 "only" sold 3mil last Fiscal year is somewhat erroneous. I would imagine it would be closer to 3.5, if not 4mil. As far as I'm concerned, Sony will say something when the PS3 outships the 360, so a more likely shipment number is 77mil maximum. 

 

Taking all this into account, I'd say it should read more like:

Wii U- Slightly undertracked (Around 200k)

3DS- Slightly overtracked (Around 300k)

360- Undertracked (Around 1mil)

PS3- Undertracked (Around 1.3mil)

 

I agree with everything else you said, however. Overall, pretty fair predictions and these are my own, and thus I shalln't defend them if they come under attack by other members. 



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.