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Kerotan said:
think-man said:

Thats crazy, maybe its peaked.

I got ridiculed for saying this a while back before it fell behind on the comparison.  I said the graph was cause for concern because it was too flat but people said but it's still ahead.  

 

Hopefully it and FF pick up steam but it's really worrying for YW right now. 

 

Anyway another shit day.  At least Persona and tales moved for me. 

If yokai doesnt pick up than FF might have a chance of beating it's total launch points



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hiska-kun said:

I just realized that there're just 14 Comg stores at the moment opened (they were 16 stores when this thread was made, and I'm not sure if they were more before). That means that at least two stores have closed since then, and that's something that can explain why the ratio is better now than before, since less stores are being tracked.

Since 2013, I've been living in Japan and I've seen like 4-5 game stores closing so far, and some others just reduced its space on shelves and they're placing different products instead (smartphones or toys). That really tells you how the japanese game market is dying, and everyday it passes there're less and less game stores.

Yeah that was also my theory!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7904997



Boutros said:
hiska-kun said:

I just realized that there're just 14 Comg stores at the moment opened (they were 16 stores when this thread was made, and I'm not sure if they were more before). That means that at least two stores have closed since then, and that's something that can explain why the ratio is better now than before, since less stores are being tracked.

Since 2013, I've been living in Japan and I've seen like 4-5 game stores closing so far, and some others just reduced its space on shelves and they're placing different products instead (smartphones or toys). That really tells you how the japanese game market is dying, and everyday it passes there're less and less game stores.

Yeah that was also my theory!

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7904997

Not good to hear



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205719067&postcount=225

YSO predictions

01. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice < 250k (average 230k)
02. [PS4] Mirror's Edge Catalyst < 30k (average 25k)
03. [PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes II: Futago no Ou to Yogen no Owari < 25k (average 20k)
03. [PSV] Dragon Quest Heroes II: Futago no Ou to Yogen no Owari < 25k (average 20k)

I'd be quite interested to see what Capcom think of those Ace Attorney numbers if it does reach that ballpark.  It's great numbers and show the IP is holding rock steady, but at the same time I feel like they've been pushing it to grow a lot recently with the anime and all, so might've expected a bit more.



hiska-kun said:
Farsala said:

I realize it is smaller, but retail stores collapsing isn't solely due to the market, digital sales take away a lot from these retail exclusive stores like COMG!

For example: Gamestop is putting more of their focus into Publishing rather then be an entirely retail store.

Digital sales in Japan aren't that big than in the west. In Japan there're still some cultural factors than makes japanese people to choose retail over digital. The example than you gave before, the music CD, are still a strong market in Japan. For example Tsutaya is a DVD and CD store, that also sells games, but the main business are DVDs (and blue-ray) and CDs, games come after.

One of the reason of the strong retail market is because the used market takes a big role in Japan. A lot of people tends to sell their games when they finished, and use the money earned to buy the next one. 

The times that we see high digital ratios of japanese games, most of the times have strong reasons behind. The two more important are:

- Online play focused games. If the game is going to be played mostly online and also there's the intention of purchase extras online, it could be more convenient to buy the game digital.

- Stock problems, high retail sell-through. Obviously if a person can't find a copy of the game at stores, instead of waiting for new shipments, there's the digital version as an option. Games with high sell-through tend to have better digital ratios.

If course digital sales will keep growing, in Japan too. But the main reason of the contraction isn't digital, and the effect they have is still low.

Digital sales started out slow with 7th gen as well. It might be a shock to retailers the growth factor of digital.

In Japan I imagine digital sales for PS3 were like 5% while in late gen it became ~10%. Now PS4 is looking at 15-25%. With some games having a lot more then  others.

In US I estimate PS3 had like 10% and grew to 20%. Most western companies estimate full game downloads for PS4 as 20-30%+.


I really do think the PS4's surprising amount of digital sales have thrown Japanese retailers a curveball. And since those gaming retail stores are massive 6 story buildings with multiple floors for different physical products, their gaming sections become less relevant.

Of course I agree that the market is extremely bad anyways with the recent week in May being the worst in so many years.

Edit: And the majority of the market is handhelds 3DS and vita with very little digital sales, but they are now in freefall. It is definitely time for new handhelds and we might only get one.



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Weekly ranking:

Index Period: May 30 - June 5, 2016 2016

  1. [Vita] Dragon Quest Heroes II twin of the king and the prophecy the end of - 86pt
  2. [PS4] Dragon Quest Heroes II twins king and prophecy the end of the - 80pt
  3. [PS3] Dragon Quest Heroes II twins king and prophecy the end of the - 48pt
  4. [PS4] over watch Origins Edition - 32pt
  5. [3DS] Kirby Lobo ball Planet - 18pt
  6. [Vita] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 13Pt
  7. [PS4] GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- (Normal Edition) - 13Pt
  8. [3DS] specter Three Kingdoms - 11pt
  9. [PS4] Uncharted pirate king and the last of the treasure - 10pt
  10. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 - 7Pt
  11. [WiiU] Splatoon - 6pt
  12. [PS4] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 6Pt
  13. [PS4] Main Craft Edition PlayStation4 - 6Pt
  14. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto 5 (Bargain Edition) - 6Pt
  15. [PS3] GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- (Normal Edition) - 6Pt
  16. [3DS] My Hero Academia Battle For All - 6pt
  17. [Vita] Classic Dungeon Sengoku - 5pt
  18. [Vita] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2016 - 5Pt
  19. [Vita] Taisho × symmetry Alice all in one - 5pt
  20. [PS4] Uncharted pirate king and the last of the treasure Deluxe Edition - 5pt


A good day at last, but not really for the games I wanted.



celador said:
A good day at last, but not really for the games I wanted.

Exactly how I feel.