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Trhawk said:

Freedom Wars will do at least 150k first week, quote me on it im confidient. :P

Here is some evidence to back you up.

Freedom wars preorders with 32 days left vs other original IP.

Fredom Wars(PSV)  60 pts

Toukiden(PSV) 30 pts First week sales= 120k

Toukiden(PSP) 18 pts FW sales= 60k

Toukiden(PSP+PSV) 48 pts FW sales = 180k

Dragon Crown(PS3) 25pts FW sales = 105k

Dragon Crown(PSV) 20 pts FW sales = 70k

Dragon Crown(PS3+PSV) 45 pts FW sales = 175k

So not only is Freedom wars beating the Vita version of Toukiden and Dragon's Crown by a lot, it is acctually beating the PSP+PSV or PSV+PS3 combined pts total by a solid amount.  And given Toukiden and Dragons Crown both opened around 175-180k, it would seem that Freedom Wars is headed for a ~200k first week if not more.


Look at Kres sig, he got the info you need :)



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Kresnik said:

Everyone seemed to forget this:

  1. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki Samurai Challenge - 94pt
  2. [PS4] inFAMOUS Second Son - 72pt
  3. [3DS] Yokai Watch - 44pt
  4. [3DS] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki Samurai Challenge - 34pt
  5. The [Vita] Darkness Battle Ecstasy (Limited Edition) - Trouble -るTo LOVE - 27Pt
  6. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 27Pt
  7. The [Vita] Darkness Battle Ecstasy (Limited Edition) - Trouble -るTo LOVE - 24pt
  8. [PS3] Idol master One for All (Limited Edition) - 16pt
  9. [3DS] Mario Golf World Tour - 12pt
  10. [Vita] limit Totsu-ki model erotic Chronicle (Limited Edition) - 10pt
  11. [3DS] Mario Party Island Tour - 10pt
  12. [Vita] AMNESIA WORLD (Limited Edition) - 9pt
  13. [WiiU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 8pt
  14. [Vita] Sword Art Online - Hollow fragment - (Limited Edition) - 8pt
  15. [Wii] Pikmin Playing with Wii 7Pt -
  16. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki Samurai Challenge - 7pt
  17. [3DS] selfish fashion GIRLS MODE Tokimeki UP declaration greedy! - 7Pt
  18. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe star 7pt -
  19. [3DS] Pazudora Z - 7Pt
  20. [Vita] limit Totsu-ki model erotic Chronicle (Limited Edition) - 6pt

What's this list and why there are two limited editions of toloveru Darkness there?



 

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Trhawk said:

Freedom Wars will do at least 150k first week, quote me on it im confidient. :P

Here is some evidence to back you up.

Freedom wars preorders with 32 days left vs other original IP.

Fredom Wars(PSV)  60 pts

Toukiden(PSV) 30 pts First week sales= 120k

Toukiden(PSP) 18 pts FW sales= 60k

Toukiden(PSP+PSV) 48 pts FW sales = 180k

Dragon Crown(PS3) 25pts FW sales = 105k

Dragon Crown(PSV) 20 pts FW sales = 70k

Dragon Crown(PS3+PSV) 45 pts FW sales = 175k

So not only is Freedom wars beating the Vita version of Toukiden and Dragon's Crown by a lot, it is acctually beating the PSP+PSV or PSV+PS3 combined pts total by a solid amount.  And given Toukiden and Dragons Crown both opened around 175-180k, it would seem that Freedom Wars is headed for a ~200k first week if not more.

I'm more interested in Freedom wars vs God Eater (PSP's and Vita's games...) both are from the same devs.. and compre it to others similar new Ips on Vita that aren't on another platforms.. like Soul Sacrifice and Ragnarok Odysey...



 

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DemoniOtaku said:
Kresnik said:

Everyone seemed to forget this:

  1. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki Samurai Challenge - 94pt
  2. [PS4] inFAMOUS Second Son - 72pt
  3. [3DS] Yokai Watch - 44pt
  4. [3DS] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki Samurai Challenge - 34pt
  5. The [Vita] Darkness Battle Ecstasy (Limited Edition) - Trouble -るTo LOVE - 27Pt
  6. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 27Pt
  7. The [Vita] Darkness Battle Ecstasy (Limited Edition) - Trouble -るTo LOVE - 24pt
  8. [PS3] Idol master One for All (Limited Edition) - 16pt
  9. [3DS] Mario Golf World Tour - 12pt
  10. [Vita] limit Totsu-ki model erotic Chronicle (Limited Edition) - 10pt
  11. [3DS] Mario Party Island Tour - 10pt
  12. [Vita] AMNESIA WORLD (Limited Edition) - 9pt
  13. [WiiU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 8pt
  14. [Vita] Sword Art Online - Hollow fragment - (Limited Edition) - 8pt
  15. [Wii] Pikmin Playing with Wii 7Pt -
  16. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 Aoki Samurai Challenge - 7pt
  17. [3DS] selfish fashion GIRLS MODE Tokimeki UP declaration greedy! - 7Pt
  18. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe star 7pt -
  19. [3DS] Pazudora Z - 7Pt
  20. [Vita] limit Totsu-ki model erotic Chronicle (Limited Edition) - 6pt

What's this list and why there are two limited editions of toloveru Darkness there?


That's COMG's actual sales for the week.

The translation software people seem to use (Google?) marks regular edition as limited edition as well. It's terrible. Only #5 and #20 are actually limited editions.



Well Soul Sacrifice entered the chart with a week left, ended with only 40 pts and had a bit over 100k First weeks sales. And trying to compare God Eater 2 vs Freedom Wars is only going to lead to a bad time. Too many dynamics are different, the biggest of which being the fact that one IP is new.

Edit: Just did a little digging to show the new IP dynamic.

Compare the Original God Eater to God Eater 2:

65% or 450 out of 700 of God Eater's points were gained in the last 18 days.

Compared to only 36% of God Eater 2 on the vita or 32% of God Eater on the PSP.

In the last 8 days the original God Eater gained 36% (250) of its final points, compared to 16% for God Eater 2 on the Vita and 16% on the PSP.



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It's late and I'm bored so I'm just going to post some Vita game comparisons. 

Right now according to Kresnik's COMG archive Freedom Wars is the 13th most pre-order Vita game of all-time and still has 32 days to go.

With 32 days left before release this is how other Vita games were doing (When looking up numbers I may be off by a day)

 

Toukiden - 28pts (FW 123k)
God Eater 2 - 211pts (FW 266k)
Soul Sacrifice - LOLpts (FW 136k including double pack, it also ended at 40pts total) 
Sword Art Online - 132pts (FW 145k, 58pts regular, 74pts LE)
Persona 4 Golden - 116pts (FW 137k)
Hatsune Miku Project Diva f - 82pts (FW 159k)
Freedom Wars - 60pts (FW ???)

 

The top ten highest pre-ordered Vita games on COMG are:

 

1. God Eater 2 - 411pts
2. Sword Art Online - 233pts
3. Persona 4 Golden - 192+pts
4. Hatsune Miku Project Diva f - 178pts
5. Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd - 144pts
6. Toukiden - 138pts
7. Phantasy Star Online 2 - 107pts
8. Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus - 99pts
9. 3rd Super Robot Wars Z - 90pts
10. Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster (dual pack) - 72pts

 

The top 15 first week sales for a Vita game (Using Media Create):

1.  (2013) God Eater 2 - 266,326
2.  (2012) Hatsune Miku Project Diva f - 159,592
3.  (2013) Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster (dual pack) -149,132 (stand alone FFX did 25,443 FW)
4.  (2014) Sword Art Online - 145,029
5.  (2012) Persona 4 Golden - 137,076
6.  (2013) Soul Sacrifice - 136,496 (Stand alone did 92,396 while the dual pack did 22,050) 
7.  (2014) 3rd Super Robot Wars Z - 128,236
8.  (2013) Toukiden - 122,794 
9.  (2014) Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd - 98,628
10. (2014) J-Stars Victory VS - 97,821
11. (2013) Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus - 94,324
12. (2013) Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki 81,622
13. (2013) DanganRonpa 1-2 Reloaded - 76,172
14. (2013) Dragon's Crown - 71,083
15. (2011) Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational - 61,412

 

And now the top 16 Vita games lifetime (Using VGC this time)

 

1.  (2013) God Eater 2 - 413,629
2.  (2012) Persona 4 Golden - 275,611 (Atlus confirms 350k shipped+Digital)
3.  (2013) Final Fantasy X/X-2 Remaster - 264,026 (PS3 Version did 299,394)
4.  (2013) Toukiden - 244,302 (PSP version did 174,554)
5.  (2012) Hatsune Miku Project Diva f - 232,674
6.  (2013) Soul Sacrifice - 222,201
7.  (2011) Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational - 210,684
8.  (2014) Sword Art Online - 189,111
9.  (2013) Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus - 162,194
10. (2014) 3rd Super Robot Wars Z - 161,067 (PS3 version did 201,144)
11. (2012) Ragnarok Odyssey - 159,362 (VGC combined the vanilla version with Ace)
12. (2013) Phantasy Star Online 2 - 146,811 (includes episodes 1 and 2)
13. (2014) J-Stars Victory VS - 145,446 (PS3 version did 176,141)
14. (2013) Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki - 134,225 (PS3 version did 111,263)
15. (2014) Hatsune Miku Project Diva F 2nd - 132,376 (PS3 version did 82,952)
16. (2011) Uncharted: Golden Abyss - 126,143 (added cause I thought it was cool that Uncharted did this well)

I hope some of you find this useful/interesting because I sure do. And thanks Kresnik for keeping your own COMG Vita archive.

 

*edit* now to copy and past on gaf lol



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PQ is really surprising me, I never thought it would pass 150pts



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think-man said:
small44 said:
I hope Infamous would boost ps4 a little bit

PS4 should still be above WiiU this week, though it will be the last time for at least a few months.

It will be a bit close but the Wii U will nick it this week based on my study of the Amazon.co.jp charts this week.

It also seems Japan is rapidly adopting the Wii U. Sony need to move quickly or else we might have another 3DS/Vita situation for Home Consoles.



tbone51 said:
think-man said:
small44 said:
I hope Infamous would boost ps4 a little bit

PS4 should still be above WiiU this week, though it will be the last time for at least a few months.


Infamous should do 30k-50k, so it'll boost the ps4 definitely, but dont think wiiu will stay 6k again this week, there's a chance that they are neck to neck again! 

I predict between 30 and 40k and a 4-5k hardware boost



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

EricFabian said:
Kresnik said:
EricFabian said:

of course not. I know MK8, YW and even Oreshika will be sucess. I just don't know why, but I don't see FW selling well. That's it


Okay.  But how much do you think it will sell to qualify as not selling well?

Do you think 250k LTD would be a flop?  300k?  How about first week sales? 

You've got to give it some context otherwise it's pointless saying that.  I could say that I don't think Mario Kart 8 will sell well, but if I didn't say any more than that then it wouldn't mean much.

I think will sell 80~95k FW and about 250k LTD. For me is not enough to be call a sucess (for a 1st party game)

Third party generally sold more then first party games,Freedom War is a new IP Mario Kart no a 250k for a Mario games would be a flop for a new Ip especially in Japan 250k is a big success.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m