Best post in the thread.

Everyone else doesn't have a clue about what this is even all about, including the blog post. They seem to think that because something is crap value it should be offering more.

Do these same people call up their energy companies and ask for cheaper supply? Do you go into a shop and get a discount on an item just because you think you should? You pay up or GTFO. If enough people GTFO then MS will offer more, until then and with the massive numbers of people who are paying for basically nothing...MS DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING!

Right that confirms it, you're a troll. You should be banned for posting crap like this all the time. It's really annoying and you're only goal is to irritate.

If you can't give a good reason for why you posted it, then you're admitting to pureposefully posting shite.

~Mod Edit~

This post has been moderated.

-Smeags

Damn. You replied quicker than I thought you would. 

Go dab you face with some cold water and calm down, fillet. You bite way too easily.

Yeah, but it's just a blantant rip off and people still like to waste their money on it. I know they want money, but most companies remove adverts when you give them money, Microsoft has the check to fill your dashboard with them! I see online as a bog standard feature these days, you pay enough for the console and games as it is, why be greedy and charge for online? If people have some common sense, they won't just go to the next Xbox and pay for Xbox Live, by then the Playstation Network will offer everything Live does but for free and then some in the form of built in livestreaming. Xbox Live has served it's purpose to get Xbox from the huge losses it once had, into profit and now the Xbox console has a loyal fanbase, Microsoft should stop being so tight and invest in some good exclusive developers. And you don't think Microsoft pays a ton of royalities to a select few publishers? They must be paying a fortune to get COD dlc, one month early every year. 

He can do whatever he wants on his blog, but this forums have rules and you must abide to them.

Content is king and the mere existence of an article or blog post somewhere in the internet doesn't warrant it's worth a thread.

I'd advise the Microsoft fans to report the thread and move on rather than replying and arguing to people baiting in the thread. Its likely nothing will get done but if you keep reporting these sorts of threads listed by the same posters they will get banned eventually. Thank you to the non Microsoft fans in the thread who also questioned the necessity of this thread.

I completely agree with all you have written but that's my point. People DO pay, people are continuing to pay. Yes it's greedy - all companies are greedy but there's nothing unethical taking place here. It's a service and people are paying for it, just because another company creates a rival service that is far better doesn't mean anything when it comes down to it unless unethical practices are taking place.

Even with the COD 1 month timed exclusive that's a business decision, it's all business deicions.

I'm basically saying there's no discussion to be had here because people know exactly what they're getting with Xbox Live Gold and with PS+, people are intelligent enough (at least at VGChartz) to not need an evangelical troll trying to point out the damn obvious! :)

That's referring to somini, not you.

I'm not defending MS by any stretch but I don't really think they need defending, they're just a company with a load of fools paying an over priced (relative to Sony) subscription, what more is there to say? :)

I'm one of those fools lol, well not currently actually has haven't bothered renewing since a few months. I think a thread like this could work with some proper debate with people who maybe have stopped their renewel and maybe asking if people genuinely have say sold their 360 for a PS3 on the basis of the subscription? Generally though what seems to be bltantely obvious here is that people aren't that bothered about paying for it, and the people making a fuss are basically people who don't own and Xbox 360 and just being evangelical and personifying their console and touting PS+ like childish little idiots. Maybe they don't realize they're doing it...

(Again, I'm not referring to you here so don't take that the wrong way, I appreciate you're laying out a genuine opinion, but you're definitely the exception in these types of threads).

Yeah i understand that. I understand people like Xbox, it's a great system (the controller is excellent) but i'm probably in the minority here but it's stuff like Xbox Live Gold and the old RROD plus the lack of appealing exclusives to me (i only really liked the look of Alan Wake) that made me think it was worth saving up the extra £100 for my PS3 when i bought it in 2009. I'm happy with my choice and i'm sure you are happy with yours, that's what should matter to be honest. They all offer the same thing really. But I do look forward to the Xbox (whatever they will call it) event on May 21st, i look forward to see what they will show (maybe the console lol). But i'm sure we will get hit by more flame baiting threads like this that day, it's a shame really we don't need such negativity. 

Well, that's...that's a clever answer, sir.

OK... here's my take on this I guess it just depends on what type of gamer you are... I've have the time to experience XBL Gold for the time I had a 360... and later on purchased a PS3. Despite what everybody says about XBL and PSN, I know what both services are about and while their not perfect, they do get the job done pretty well... Screw what everyone says just do what works for you... while I have my own opinion on how these service's affect the gaming industry is a whole other subject.