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animegaming said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:

While plausible, there's just 1 problem.

You don't worry about how big your Nintendo Directs are when your home console is in dire straits. Priorities and all.

"media outlets will pay further attention to future ND's, because they will know that nintendo means business with these directs, resulting in more attention from the media when announcing future games"

Though the aforementioned above could happen.


E3's importance is simply for marketing. i believe nintendo isnt desperate about their console at the moment. i believe they are looking at the long term plan where they can have more control over their announcments and more hype


most likely a lot of the big marketing will come around fall with wind waker HD and mario kart 

i meant that E3 presentations them selfs are a form of marketing. they have this huge presentation that is streamed to every site, every site has banned and "instant covarage" of E3. the consumers give their full attention because they know the good are coming and then you have sites having "E3" awards a week after the show. its basically a marketing dream. and nintendo wants a bit of that to happen with their nintendo directs



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Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:

While plausible, there's just 1 problem.

You don't worry about how big your Nintendo Directs are when your home console is in dire straits. Priorities and all.

"media outlets will pay further attention to future ND's, because they will know that nintendo means business with these directs, resulting in more attention from the media when announcing future games"

Though the aforementioned above could happen.


E3's importance is simply for marketing. i believe nintendo isnt desperate about their console at the moment. i believe they are looking at the long term plan where they can have more control over their announcments and more hype

They aren't desperate one bit. They just missed their original projections by 40% and missed their revised projection by 55%... they aren't desperate at all


there is a difference between being desperate and experiencing failure. nintendo is experiencing the latter



bananaking21 said:
animegaming said:
bananaking21 said:
Otakumegane said:

While plausible, there's just 1 problem.

You don't worry about how big your Nintendo Directs are when your home console is in dire straits. Priorities and all.

"media outlets will pay further attention to future ND's, because they will know that nintendo means business with these directs, resulting in more attention from the media when announcing future games"

Though the aforementioned above could happen.


E3's importance is simply for marketing. i believe nintendo isnt desperate about their console at the moment. i believe they are looking at the long term plan where they can have more control over their announcments and more hype


most likely a lot of the big marketing will come around fall with wind waker HD and mario kart 

i meant that E3 presentations them selfs are a form of marketing. they have this huge presentation that is streamed to every site, every site has banned and "instant covarage" of E3. the consumers give their full attention because they know the good are coming and then you have sites having "E3" awards a week after the show. its basically a marketing dream. and nintendo wants a bit of that to happen with their nintendo directs

that is true nintendo might be able to find way for there directs to have a lot of coverage that is pretty much the only problem with them gaming sites are the only ones that report on what happened 



bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
 

 

They aren't desperate one bit. They just missed their original projections by 40% and missed their revised projection by 55%... they aren't desperate at all


there is a difference between being desperate and experiencing failure. nintendo is experiencing the latter

If they aren't desperate then they will continue to fail. You don't just take it easy as your product is suffocating. They are desperate and try to turn their console around.



Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
 

 

They aren't desperate one bit. They just missed their original projections by 40% and missed their revised projection by 55%... they aren't desperate at all


there is a difference between being desperate and experiencing failure. nintendo is experiencing the latter

If they aren't desperate then they will continue to fail. You don't just take it easy as your product is suffocating. They are desperate and try to turn their console around.

Basically Nintendo is failing because of 3 things in this order: games, marketing, price. At E3 they will fix 2/3 of those and possibly all 3. They will ahow off all there games coming out the rest of the year and many for 2014, E3 should give them some good press/attention and its possible they will drip the price at or ahortly after E3.



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Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
 

 

They aren't desperate one bit. They just missed their original projections by 40% and missed their revised projection by 55%... they aren't desperate at all


there is a difference between being desperate and experiencing failure. nintendo is experiencing the latter

If they aren't desperate then they will continue to fail. You don't just take it easy as your product is suffocating. They are desperate and try to turn their console around.

@bolded, that makes no sense. they dont need to be desperate to be successful, why is it nessecary to be desperate? 

i believe they have a long term marketing strategy and they will stick to it, even if the WiiU isnt performing as good as they hoped



So I guess you are saying that Nintendo is trying to piggyback on the hype of e3 with their nd without actually having a formal presentation. Though I'm not sure how well this is going to be. Even if they do have nd, it's mainly the Nintendo faithful that watches them anyway so I'm not particularity sure if they will reach a broader audience after e3 is finished.It will get that boost from the media at e3 though. Wouldn't a traditional blowout be more effective though. It shows that Nintendo can bring their A game to compete directly with the others. If the conference is really good, it could get as much coverage as the other two. The strategy to divide it into nd doesn't really seem all that great. A traditional e3 would be more effective imo. I also think a major reason for them not having a formal e3 is that their news would just be drowned out by ps4/xbox infinity too.



zorg1000 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
 

 

 

 

If they aren't desperate then they will continue to fail. You don't just take it easy as your product is suffocating. They are desperate and try to turn their console around.

Basically Nintendo is failing because of 3 things in this order: games, marketing, price. At E3 they will fix 2/3 of those and possibly all 3. They will ahow off all there games coming out the rest of the year and many for 2014, E3 should give them some good press/attention and its possible they will drip the price at or ahortly after E3.

Price isn't a factor. $350 isn't expensive. The games and retailer price cuts in March obviously had little effect. Nintendo also won't cut the price. They are already losing per system and probably more than they expected being they are selling less than expected. The Wii U will "turn it around" but it will be among one of the worst systems in terms of sales for Nintendo.



bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
 

 

They aren't desperate one bit. They just missed their original projections by 40% and missed their revised projection by 55%... they aren't desperate at all


there is a difference between being desperate and experiencing failure. nintendo is experiencing the latter

If they aren't desperate then they will continue to fail. You don't just take it easy as your product is suffocating. They are desperate and try to turn their console around.

@bolded, that makes no sense. they dont need to be desperate to be successful, why is it nessecary to be desperate? 

i believe they have a long term marketing strategy and they will stick to it, even if the WiiU isnt performing as good as they hoped

But they aren't successful now are they? And if they continue down this path they won't be. They need to act and they need to act sooner than later. The longer it takes to act the hard it takes to turn the system around. There is a point of no return.



Max King of the Wild said:
zorg1000 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
 

 

 

 

If they aren't desperate then they will continue to fail. You don't just take it easy as your product is suffocating. They are desperate and try to turn their console around.

Basically Nintendo is failing because of 3 things in this order: games, marketing, price. At E3 they will fix 2/3 of those and possibly all 3. They will ahow off all there games coming out the rest of the year and many for 2014, E3 should give them some good press/attention and its possible they will drip the price at or ahortly after E3.

Price isn't a factor. $350 isn't expensive. The games and retailer price cuts in March obviously had little effect. Nintendo also won't cut the price. They are already losing per system and probably more than they expected being they are selling less than expected. The Wii U will "turn it around" but it will be among one of the worst systems in terms of sales for Nintendo.


I get what ur saying but a price cut is kinda useless unless It comes with a high profile game (MH is a 3year old updated port and lego isnt a system seller) and they were select retailers, not the whole country. $350 is kinda high considering Nintendo has never released a console over $250. But ur right it will turn it around but def not wii levels, id say a decent amount more than N64 but less than NES so 40-50m



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