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bananaking21 said:
Michael-5 said:
bananaking21 said:
over rated
- batman AA (extremely over rated!)
- Assassins creed 3
- battlefield
- skyrim

under rated
To The Moon
Max Payne
dead island (to some extent)

thats all i can think of now

Why is batman over-rated? I get the others (except Max Payne, that series is really short, and it's gotten a good amount of positive hype).

I thought Batman was amazing, it's the only game where you play a good guy, and you never kill anyone. It's amazing how well they managed to pull that off, but the series is getting milked a bit.

because the game was utterly boring. yes, i said it. there was some SERIOUS problems.

1- gameplay. yes i know gameplay is praised in the game but i have NO idea why.

A) all i do is press square square square and i beat up everybody

B) platforming is the stupidest thing i ever seen in the game. its like batman is a dumb child when it comes to platforming, its waaaaaaaaay behind the likes of uncharted and assassins creed. its a shame because 

C) HORRIBLE boss fights. HORRIBLE! i mean WTF was THAT! all i do is throw a batarang! are you fucking kidding me?! or that boss fight in the underground swers, yeah that was horrible. walk walk walk, he (forgot his name) jumps out the water, i throw a batarang then he falls in the water, then repeat the same thing. same goes WITH EVERY boss fight. ohh and the scarecrow parts are a simple waste of time.

2) too many plot holes in the story, i mean seriously i tried to enjoy the story and tried to sink my teeth in it, but the story its self kept pushing me away. ohh and that part where batman rides his plain of what ever then it dropes him off at some place and then he is like " ohh i need to go to this other place" ( i played the game oer 2 years ago, sorry i dont remember the details) i mean why the fuck didnt he just use the plain to go to the joker?

3) Dumb AI. yes i know its a lot of games suffer from this but i still didnt like the AI in this game. mostly in the times i needed to play in a stealth way where i attacked people from hanging on top of the room. its just not natural how they acted, and they somehow all have bad eye sight since they lose sight of batman just by jumping around a little

4) worst ending boss fight ever. the game builds up to this from the very start. joker taunting you (which i enjoyed though) and always making you feel like he is one step ahead of you (but somehow he plans this stupid ending) and the boss fight is........ fighting normal people while the joker stands on the edge cheering the cops in the helicopters or what ever, i pull him down the first time and the fucking moron goes up, stands the same place and does the exact same thing. you know what? fuck this game and its stupid desgin, thats what i said to my self back then, and i still stand by it. i honestly never played a boss fight that stupid and bad

I appear to disagree with you. Compare Batmans controls to Devil May Cry, or even the notorious God of War. When you play challenge mode in Batman, and sting together a combo larger then 20, you really have to work for it, and you have to press all 4 face buttons. Everything has to be timed so well, and you have to play your next 2-3 moves in advance. I loved this game because it was so damn challenging in challenge mode.

Did you play Asylum, or City? I only played Asylum, and man I loved it. Yes the AI were a bit dumb, but the stealth scenes in the game were fun. Poping out of manholes to pick people up, knocking them out when no one is looking.

and all the gadjets, I dunno.

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mutantclown said:
Underrated: Valkyria Chronicles, Brutal Legend, Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom, Warhawk.

Overrated : Red Dead Redemption, GTA IV, Mass Effect series, Dragon Age 2, Bioshock, Battlefield 3, Skyrim.

How is red dead redemption overrated? It was one of the most memorable games that I played this gen.



platformmaster918 said:
It's the first game to have a use for trophies (or achievements) in that it read your trophies for Infamous 1 and applied bonuses based on them.


You've never played a Dead Rising game, I'm afraid.



Michael-5 said:
bananaking21 said:
Michael-5 said:
bananaking21 said:
over rated
- batman AA (extremely over rated!)
- Assassins creed 3
- battlefield
- skyrim

under rated
To The Moon
Max Payne
dead island (to some extent)

thats all i can think of now

Why is batman over-rated? I get the others (except Max Payne, that series is really short, and it's gotten a good amount of positive hype).

I thought Batman was amazing, it's the only game where you play a good guy, and you never kill anyone. It's amazing how well they managed to pull that off, but the series is getting milked a bit.

because the game was utterly boring. yes, i said it. there was some SERIOUS problems.

1- gameplay. yes i know gameplay is praised in the game but i have NO idea why.

A) all i do is press square square square and i beat up everybody

B) platforming is the stupidest thing i ever seen in the game. its like batman is a dumb child when it comes to platforming, its waaaaaaaaay behind the likes of uncharted and assassins creed. its a shame because 

C) HORRIBLE boss fights. HORRIBLE! i mean WTF was THAT! all i do is throw a batarang! are you fucking kidding me?! or that boss fight in the underground swers, yeah that was horrible. walk walk walk, he (forgot his name) jumps out the water, i throw a batarang then he falls in the water, then repeat the same thing. same goes WITH EVERY boss fight. ohh and the scarecrow parts are a simple waste of time.

2) too many plot holes in the story, i mean seriously i tried to enjoy the story and tried to sink my teeth in it, but the story its self kept pushing me away. ohh and that part where batman rides his plain of what ever then it dropes him off at some place and then he is like " ohh i need to go to this other place" ( i played the game oer 2 years ago, sorry i dont remember the details) i mean why the fuck didnt he just use the plain to go to the joker?

3) Dumb AI. yes i know its a lot of games suffer from this but i still didnt like the AI in this game. mostly in the times i needed to play in a stealth way where i attacked people from hanging on top of the room. its just not natural how they acted, and they somehow all have bad eye sight since they lose sight of batman just by jumping around a little

4) worst ending boss fight ever. the game builds up to this from the very start. joker taunting you (which i enjoyed though) and always making you feel like he is one step ahead of you (but somehow he plans this stupid ending) and the boss fight is........ fighting normal people while the joker stands on the edge cheering the cops in the helicopters or what ever, i pull him down the first time and the fucking moron goes up, stands the same place and does the exact same thing. you know what? fuck this game and its stupid desgin, thats what i said to my self back then, and i still stand by it. i honestly never played a boss fight that stupid and bad

I appear to disagree with you. Compare Batmans controls to Devil May Cry, or even the notorious God of War. When you play challenge mode in Batman, and sting together a combo larger then 20, you really have to work for it, and you have to press all 4 face buttons. Everything has to be timed so well, and you have to play your next 2-3 moves in advance. I loved this game because it was so damn challenging in challenge mode.

Did you play Asylum, or City? I only played Asylum, and man I loved it. Yes the AI were a bit dumb, but the stealth scenes in the game were fun. Poping out of manholes to pick people up, knocking them out when no one is looking.

and all the gadjets, I dunno.

---

Question, did you like the Batman movies? Both new and old?

You should play city eventually. It tons of fun especially with those challenge rooms and all those dlc char like nightwing. I'm sure the goty addition has all those included already.



mutantclown said:
Underrated: Valkyria Chronicles, Brutal Legend, Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom, Warhawk.

Overrated : Red Dead Redemption, GTA IV, Mass Effect series, Dragon Age 2, Bioshock, Battlefield 3, Skyrim.

Ah finally someone else who has played Majin and the forsaken kingdom. Yes that game deserved much better sales.

Valkyria chronicles got plenty of praise though?



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Michael-5 said:

I appear to disagree with you. Compare Batmans controls to Devil May Cry, or even the notorious God of War. When you play challenge mode in Batman, and sting together a combo larger then 20, you really have to work for it, and you have to press all 4 face buttons. Everything has to be timed so well, and you have to play your next 2-3 moves in advance. I loved this game because it was so damn challenging in challenge mode.

Did you play Asylum, or City? I only played Asylum, and man I loved it. Yes the AI were a bit dumb, but the stealth scenes in the game were fun. Poping out of manholes to pick people up, knocking them out when no one is looking.

and all the gadjets, I dunno.

---

Question, did you like the Batman movies? Both new and old?


i havent played Devil may cry so i cant really comment. but on GoW i can say that it certainly isnt like that, atleast to me since i use pretty much every combo the game gives me and i play differently with each type of enemy.

i played Asylum and after that i wont play city. i know i seem to harsh but i just got burnt by the game bad. since i heard it was awesome i borrowed it, i put it in and really tried to get my self in the mood, but at every turn the game just fought against me liking it. to each their own i guess.

funny you would ask, at the point when i played the game i havent watched batman the dark knight, this game burnt me so bad that i disliked batman. when i watched the movie i got bored out of my mind, i just cant understand why people like this character. he is boring and his story is just stupid (IMO) i honestly do dislike everything batman now. i watched the first two movies (the new ones) and they are both more boring than the game.



Wright said:
platformmaster918 said:
It's the first game to have a use for trophies (or achievements) in that it read your trophies for Infamous 1 and applied bonuses based on them.


You've never played a Dead Rising game, I'm afraid.

I played 2 on PS3.  Why did it do that on Xbox?  Interesting.  Well still that wasn't really a big reason why I think the game is underrated just thought it was worth mentioning.




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bananaking21 said:
Michael-5 said:

I appear to disagree with you. Compare Batmans controls to Devil May Cry, or even the notorious God of War. When you play challenge mode in Batman, and sting together a combo larger then 20, you really have to work for it, and you have to press all 4 face buttons. Everything has to be timed so well, and you have to play your next 2-3 moves in advance. I loved this game because it was so damn challenging in challenge mode.

Did you play Asylum, or City? I only played Asylum, and man I loved it. Yes the AI were a bit dumb, but the stealth scenes in the game were fun. Poping out of manholes to pick people up, knocking them out when no one is looking.

and all the gadjets, I dunno.

---

Question, did you like the Batman movies? Both new and old?


i havent played Devil may cry so i cant really comment. but on GoW i can say that it certainly isnt like that, atleast to me since i use pretty much every combo the game gives me and i play differently with each type of enemy.

i played Asylum and after that i wont play city. i know i seem to harsh but i just got burnt by the game bad. since i heard it was awesome i borrowed it, i put it in and really tried to get my self in the mood, but at every turn the game just fought against me liking it. to each their own i guess.

funny you would ask, at the point when i played the game i havent watched batman the dark knight, this game burnt me so bad that i disliked batman. when i watched the movie i got bored out of my mind, i just cant understand why people like this character. he is boring and his story is just stupid (IMO) i honestly do dislike everything batman now. i watched the first two movies (the new ones) and they are both more boring than the game.

Noooo, how can you hate the dark knight trilogy.



Jay520 said:
Michael-5 said:

3 when Origin comes out, and 3 games in 4 years is a bit much.

However I'm not complaining about Batman, they have a good engine, and if they want to release it on PS3/360 with any reasonable amount of success, they had to release one this fall. This is nothing like Halo or Assassin's Creed.


2009, 2011, 2013

Once every two years. That's the norm.

Like I said, it's not too bad, but I consider every 2 years a bit excessive. Main Forza games are also every 2 years, and I think that's too much as well.

No franchise should have a regular interval of releases, when it does, I feel the the game is made because the franchise is popular, not because the devs actually thought of unique and original ideas.

Compare Batman to a franchise, which I don't consider milked. Zelda or Uncharted. Since 2006 there have been 2 main Zelda games, with 6 years between them. Yes there were also 2 fairly main handheld games, but it's a very different game, and it's a different audience. Uncharted as well, 1-3 had a 2 year dev time, but since 2011 all we've seen is a side game.

I know Batman will take a break, we probably won't see a new game in 2015. So in 2015, I might change my opinion, but atm it feels a little too much. However, I understand though, there should be a 3rd Batman, and it makes more sense to release a PS3/360/Wii edition using the same engine, then making a new engine and selling less copies for PS4/720 next year.



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platformmaster918 said:
Wright said:
platformmaster918 said:
It's the first game to have a use for trophies (or achievements) in that it read your trophies for Infamous 1 and applied bonuses based on them.


You've never played a Dead Rising game, I'm afraid.

I played 2 on PS3.  Why did it do that on Xbox?  Interesting.  Well still that wasn't really a big reason why I think the game is underrated just thought it was worth mentioning.


I know, I know, I was just making fun of you =P Besides, 2 has some achievement that pop-up some unlockables, such as the Shaun costume from Shaun of the Dead. The original Dead Rising granted you way better bonuses by unlocking certain achievements, like a lightsaber or Megaman's cannon.

I've never played Infamous 2. I did play Infamous 1 when a friend lend me his Ps3 and he had it for free from the Welcome Party.