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Yakuzaice on 20 April 2013
Nem said:
Woooot?! Are you telling me that the market that is dead because of phones and tablets, in fact, is quite alive and kicking? Who ever told us these lies should be linched in public.

No really... they should. Dumbass analysts.

Alive and kicking is a stretch.  The 3DS and Vita combined in the US last month did less than the PSP alone did in March 2008.  The 3DS, Vita, DS, and PSP did less combined than the DS in March 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.  They aren't even close, in 2008 and 2010 the DS was just less than double those combined.



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Nem on 20 April 2013
Yakuzaice said:
Nem said:
Woooot?! Are you telling me that the market that is dead because of phones and tablets, in fact, is quite alive and kicking? Who ever told us these lies should be linched in public.

No really... they should. Dumbass analysts.

Alive and kicking is a stretch.  The 3DS and Vita combined in the US last month did less than the PSP alone did in March 2008.  The 3DS, Vita, DS, and PSP did less combined than the DS in March 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.  They aren't even close, in 2008 and 2010 the DS was just less than double those combined.


Did the PSP happen to be a launch week in one of the regions or perhaps a price cut? What i know is that the 3DS is outselling the DS. The rest is history. You can conclude from that that Sony lost its market, but not Nintendo.

 

I still think its dumb. No one in their right mind plays a proper game on their phones. The controls are atrocious, the concept is dumb.



zorg1000 on 20 April 2013
Nem said:
Yakuzaice said:
Nem said:
Woooot?! Are you telling me that the market that is dead because of phones and tablets, in fact, is quite alive and kicking? Who ever told us these lies should be linched in public.

No really... they should. Dumbass analysts.

Alive and kicking is a stretch.  The 3DS and Vita combined in the US last month did less than the PSP alone did in March 2008.  The 3DS, Vita, DS, and PSP did less combined than the DS in March 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.  They aren't even close, in 2008 and 2010 the DS was just less than double those combined.


Did the PSP happen to be a launch week in one of the regions or perhaps a price cut? What i know is that the 3DS is outselling the DS. The rest is history. You can conclude from that that Sony lost its market, but not Nintendo.

 

I still think its dumb. No one in their right mind plays a proper game on their phones. The controls are atrocious, the concept is dumb.

I believe nintendo has lost some of its market, not all but a decent chunk, it wont sell 25-30 million for 3 years straight but will still go on to pass 100 million.



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Yakuzaice on 20 April 2013
Nem said:

Did the PSP happen to be a launch week in one of the regions or perhaps a price cut? What i know is that the 3DS is outselling the DS. The rest is history. You can conclude from that that Sony lost its market, but not Nintendo.

 

I still think its dumb. No one in their right mind plays a proper game on their phones. The controls are atrocious, the concept is dumb.

It had some game releases that month, but no price cut to my knowledge.

You can't really look at their market without also acknowledging the GBA which was a big reason for the slow start of the DS.  The GBA shipped 13.03 million units to the Americas from the quarter the DS launched to the end of its life.  In comparison the DS has only shipped 5.4 million since the 3DS launch.  The GBA in January 2007 actually outperformed the 3DS in January 2013 (and Jan 2012 for that matter).

So that would mean we are looking at the Nintendo Market going from 18 million to 15.37 million in the first eight quarters of a new handhelds life in the Americas.  This will look even worse in about a week considering the fact that the DS and GBA did 4.26 million in the ninth quarter, while shipments for the DS and 3DS are likely to be around a million in the Americas.  That would bring it to 22.26 million versus 16.37 million after nine quarters.  Even ignoring all that, how can you look at 316k Nintendo handheld sales in March 2013 compared to 652k in March 2007 and say there hasn't been a significant contraction in the market both Nintendo and overall?  Just two years ago in March 2011 total handheld sales were 1046k, and the DS alone was 29% higher than the 3DS, DS, Vita, and PSP combined this past month.

This is a problem I've seen when discussing the 3DS.  People just say "the 3DS is outselling the DS" without looking at the current sales for the 3DS and the historical sales trend of the DS.  There was a very obvious DS sales cliff looming, and the 3DS sales weren't rising to meet it.  Now it has already collided with the base of that cliff worldwide (as well as Japan and Europe individually), and it has literally just days before hitting it in the US.

The 3DS has already fallen behind the DS in Japan by a significant margin (a little over 3.4 million), and losing significant ground weekly after 112 weeks.  After 107 weeks in Europe it has fallen behind by 3.08 million and the gap is widening by 60-100k a week.  In the US, the 3DS still holds on to a very slight lead, but to say it is outselling the DS is disingenuous.  In week 107 the 3DS sold 46k.  In week 107 the DS sold 319k.  Today is the end of week 108, where the DS did another 369k.  Next saturday will mark week 109 for the 3DS.  In that week the DS did 462k, and that is when the 3DS will have fallen behind the DS in the three major regions.



bonkers555 on 20 April 2013

Because the 3DS is handheld so family with more then one kids might have multiples. I personally own 5 3DS and 3 Vitas.

And it also help that the 3DS have amazing games lately.



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Kaizar on 21 April 2013
Herolink7 said:
Kaizar said:
Herolink7 said:
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curl-6 said:
Kaizar said:
curl-6 said:
The 3DS is on fire right now, and with so many heavy hitters to come this year, its going to be an absolute monster this holiday season. And this from a system that at one point was labelled "doomed." It goes to show, never judge a system by its opening.


It sold more its first month then any other video game system ever has. Same goes for first 6 months & first 12 month sales.

And the Wii U sold more in its first month then almost any home console, but of course the Wii sold even more it's first month.

I think the first 1 month sales say a lot, and same goes for first 6 month sales, and first 12 month sales & first 18 month sales & first 2 years sales.

3DS sales before its price cut were below expectations, hence the reason for the cut itself, and Wii U sales at the moment are pretty dismal. The 3DS exploded once it got compelling software though, and Wii U should show improvement once the big hitters arrive also.

It was below expectation, but above all other gaming systems sales for same period. And that's before price cut.

But yeah, software is all that matters to most of us western gamers, luckily for Nintendo.


Where in the world are you getting that from? 3DS was not the best selling system at any point in any region within the first year, except for Japan. Same for Wii U in first month sales.

Also, you have ridiculously high expectations for Luigi's Mansion. 10m lifetime? Cmon dude. Just be glad that it is selling reasonably well.

3DS NA sales this week is probably just a case of VGC making up for horribly undertaking it these past few months.


Global sales, for first 1 month & first 12 months.

That still isn't true. Wii was by far the faster selling system, probably PS2 and GBA as well.


Nintendo & many others have confirmed that the 3DS sold more Hardware in it's first 1 year sales, then GBA.



Kaizar on 21 April 2013
Nem said:
Woooot?! Are you telling me that the market that is dead because of phones and tablets, in fact, is quite alive and kicking? Who ever told us these lies should be linched in public.

No really... they should. Dumbass analysts.


The same people who told us that PCs are killing home consoles during the 5th & 6th gen.

And we all saw how the N64 & PS1 & PS2 & Wii did, LOL but true. And the Wii is 7th Gen and showed that no one should ever believe that gaming systems will be killed by X.



Trunkin on 21 April 2013

Looks like all the focus Nintendo has been giving the system for the past several months is finally starting to pay off.



Yakuzaice on 21 April 2013
Kaizar said:

Nintendo & many others have confirmed that the 3DS sold more Hardware in it's first 1 year sales, then GBA.

Where exactly have they said this?  Because in the first four quarters of availability the GBA shipped 12.17 million between Americas and Other. They only have 6 month and full year numbers for that period of time, so I can't get the exact amount for Japan since it launched there a about 10 days before the previous fiscal year ended.  So you could either go with the 4.92 million from quarters 2-5 or 5.98 million from quarters 1-5.

If we do 5 quarters of Japan and 4 for both Americas and Others we get

GBA: 18.15 million

3DS: 16.22 million.

For sell through the GBA has a pretty commanding lead in the US, and just a small deficit in Japan.  Don't have any European sell through numbers.



Kaizar on 21 April 2013
Yakuzaice said:
Kaizar said:

Nintendo & many others have confirmed that the 3DS sold more Hardware in it's first 1 year sales, then GBA.

Where exactly have they said this?  Because in the first four quarters of availability the GBA shipped 12.17 million between Americas and Other. They only have 6 month and full year numbers for that period of time, so I can't get the exact amount for Japan since it launched there a about 10 days before the previous fiscal year ended.  So you could either go with the 4.92 million from quarters 2-5 or 5.98 million from quarters 1-5.

If we do 5 quarters of Japan and 4 for both Americas and Others we get

GBA: 18.15 million

3DS: 16.22 million.

For sell through the GBA has a pretty commanding lead in the US, and just a small deficit in Japan.  Don't have any European sell through numbers.

http://www.nintendo3dsblog.com/the-record-breaking-sales-of-the-3ds/

It surpass the GBA by week 47 or 49 and kept it up.