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Does Xbox Live deserve the criticism it gets in the forums?

Yes Xbox Live is a rip off 221 45.19%
 
No Xbox Live is the best ... 208 42.54%
 
No opinion / don't care 60 12.27%
 
Total:489
IsawYoshi on 19 April 2013

The Wii sold 100 millions (almost). Is the hate unjustified?



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DirtyP2002 on 19 April 2013

Xbox Live is the best service you can find on any platform. Including Steam, Battle.net, PSN and Dreamarena and yes, I used them all.

If you pay those 16 Cents per day, you get the best service. End of story.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Lostplanet22 on 19 April 2013

The hate comes from people who doesn't like that their are people who love Xbox live that is the problem; if you dare to say you xbox live they will try to do everything to make you look stupid.



 

The Fury on 19 April 2013
tres said:
The Fury said:

Stealing a movie by pirating is different and cannot be compared to this.

Many people are annoyed at the idea of people buying a game that has an online feature and not being able to play that feature unless they give MS more money. You are already technically giving MS money when you buy the game. A good example of how this might affect people is Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect and 2 were single player games only, but ME3 added an online feature, a feature which even changed the main single player game. For silver membership members they couldn't access this part of the game, something both PC and PS3 gamers could,  unless they payed up.

It's the same kind of effect for all games with an online feature. Pay once to buy the game including the online, pay again to actually be able to pay the online feature. For many Playstation and PC users this doesn't make sense because in the case of PC gamers they've been able to buy and game and play it online for free long before XBox Live came al

dont get me wrong i dont understand their thinking other than servers cost.  ps+ more than anything has saved sony.  why ms never had a tier system is beyond me.  what i dont get is why people that dont use the system sound so angry about it all the time.  why complain about something you dont use unless you really want to use it :)

In the case of MS though, are they the ones keeping the Black Ops 2 servers up and running or is it Activision/Treyarch? If the latter why doesn't the money paid for Xbox Live go towards Activision? (the very arguement they had with Ms a couple of years back).

That said, you are right, there is little reason to why those who don't use the service have to argue against it but maybe they just aren't saying more than you need to know. But if 'they really want to use it', maybe they do but just can't justify paying that extra fee considering they have not been paying for it on PC, Playstation or Wii, they don't understand why they should have to pay for something they've had before for free from everyone else.

In any business, if I'm used to not having to pay for something, regardless of what it is then one day another company steps in and starts charging for the same thing I've had for free for many years, I'd complain, even if there are those that just don't mind and pay anyway.



Hmm, pie.

Barozi on 19 April 2013
dsgrue3 said:
Barozi said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:

Enough with these misleading excuses about services.

outlawauron said:
I think its a ripoff and I still pay for it. I HAVE to pay for it in order to take advantage of key gaming features and gameplay.

What this guy said: KEY GAMING FEATURES.

You buy Black Ops II.

Is this an online game ? Yes.

You buy an Xbox 360

 Can you play black ops II online out of the box ? No.

Guess what. Microsoft sold you half a bloody console.


Of course you can play games online when you buy a 360. Every console can create up to 6 accounts that have each 1 month of free gold membership.

LOL!

Okay, that's 6 months. If you bought it at launch you have 72 more months to address. I await your response.

All 360s RROD anyway after 6 months.



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dsgrue3 on 19 April 2013
Barozi said:
dsgrue3 said:

LOL!

Okay, that's 6 months. If you bought it at launch you have 72 more months to address. I await your response.

All 360s RROD anyway after 6 months.

Okay, 50% of the launch units. Forgive my ignorance, but does this allow for another 6 months free  of LIVE? Is that your point?

If so, 66 months to go.



Barozi on 19 April 2013
dsgrue3 said:
Barozi said:
dsgrue3 said:

LOL!

Okay, that's 6 months. If you bought it at launch you have 72 more months to address. I await your response.

All 360s RROD anyway after 6 months.

Okay, 50% of the launch units. Forgive my ignorance, but does this allow for another 6 months free  of LIVE? Is that your point?

If so, 66 months to go.

You don't even see how this was a joke...



dsgrue3 on 19 April 2013
Barozi said:
dsgrue3 said:
Barozi said:
dsgrue3 said:

LOL!

Okay, that's 6 months. If you bought it at launch you have 72 more months to address. I await your response.

All 360s RROD anyway after 6 months.

Okay, 50% of the launch units. Forgive my ignorance, but does this allow for another 6 months free  of LIVE? Is that your point?

If so, 66 months to go.

You don't even see how this was a joke...

I can tell you aren't a comedian.



sales2099 on 19 April 2013

Haters gonna hate. Numbers speak for themselves.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Osc89 on 19 April 2013
The Fury said:
tres said:
The Fury said:

Stealing a movie by pirating is different and cannot be compared to this.

Many people are annoyed at the idea of people buying a game that has an online feature and not being able to play that feature unless they give MS more money. You are already technically giving MS money when you buy the game. A good example of how this might affect people is Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect and 2 were single player games only, but ME3 added an online feature, a feature which even changed the main single player game. For silver membership members they couldn't access this part of the game, something both PC and PS3 gamers could,  unless they payed up.

It's the same kind of effect for all games with an online feature. Pay once to buy the game including the online, pay again to actually be able to pay the online feature. For many Playstation and PC users this doesn't make sense because in the case of PC gamers they've been able to buy and game and play it online for free long before XBox Live came al

dont get me wrong i dont understand their thinking other than servers cost.  ps+ more than anything has saved sony.  why ms never had a tier system is beyond me.  what i dont get is why people that dont use the system sound so angry about it all the time.  why complain about something you dont use unless you really want to use it :)

In the case of MS though, are they the ones keeping the Black Ops 2 servers up and running or is it Activision/Treyarch? If the latter why doesn't the money paid for Xbox Live go towards Activision? (the very arguement they had with Ms a couple of years back).

That said, you are right, there is little reason to why those who don't use the service have to argue against it but maybe they just aren't saying more than you need to know. But if 'they really want to use it', maybe they do but just can't justify paying that extra fee considering they have not been paying for it on PC, Playstation or Wii, they don't understand why they should have to pay for something they've had before for free from everyone else.

In any business, if I'm used to not having to pay for something, regardless of what it is then one day another company steps in and starts charging for the same thing I've had for free for many years, I'd complain, even if there are those that just don't mind and pay anyway.


There is a perfectly good reason to complain against others using Xbox Live. Everyone who does is demonstrating that they are willing to spend £40 a year on a very trivial improvement. Sony could look at this, slightly uprade beyond Xbox Live and charge £80? Nintendo spots this, overtakes and charges £120? Everyone who buys Xbox Live is paying for something we can get for free, and it could result in the rest of us having to pay.

It's also why we think there could be truth in rumours of the 720 not allowing used games or forcing a constant internet connection. Microsoft have realised they can push their loyal customers into a worse deal than the competition, and they'll love it anyway. Look at all the support they get in this thread, despite the fact that if everyone stopped paying for a month Gold would be free instantly. Everyone should be against it, as Sony and Nintendo might pick up on the fact that they would be a lot better off if they start screwing over their most loyal customers. Instead of PS+ and Ambassador Programs we'll get adverts and subscription fees, and the most loyal will defend it for them.



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