"I imagine the system will have a large soc with both apus and a modified amd jaguar that can enter a low power state and an xbox 360 soc for bc."

Large SOC with both APUs and a modified Jaguar ?

You think they will produce a large chip and put 2 APUs on it ? So basically 16 Jaguar Cores and 24 CUs (going by vgleaks) on the same chip aka a big APU not two or why would they put two seperate APUs on the chip  ?

And a 360 SOC ?

This will not happen. If they would put 2 APUs in it and a 360 SOC the console would be a huge monster in any case. Bigger than launch PS3 for sure. And it would cost alot. They would need another memory solution aswell like you said but how is this going to be low power and low cost ?

I mean it would be great to see a console like this it would definetly make me buy it but how is this supposed to work without increasing the console size and price alot over the 360 ?

its not as good as the PS controller but its not that bad. my main grip with the controller is the AA batteries. the bump at the back for inserting them just makes the controller less comfortable to hold. i wish they would get rid of them. 

with the big list of rumored exclusives there are 2 things MS would do to make me really consider buying the new xbox
1) free to play online - i dont care about any other feature, but since i am planning on buying a PS4 i could play all my multiplats online for free, i wouldnt want to pay a fee just so i can play exclusives online
2) get rid of the AA batteries in the xbox controller. they make the controller way less comfortable to handle and changing the batteries is a pain

8 core 24cu(large)

360soc (small)

2x4gb hmc(less space than current 360 ram set up)

less power needed to power each item, less connectors needed, less heat produced since they do not all need to be running at once.

As for the price: Having both apus on one soc would mean 1 chip at a fixed cost instead of multiple chips at varying costs, same reason ms did this with the 360. HMC ram is not going to be as cheap as ddr3 but it will not be that expensive considering that it is only normal ddr3 chips with tsvs and a controller. And the 360 soc was cheap when it came out 3 years ago, I doubt it costs that much to make now.

This solution has less chips than the original ps3 and is similar to the yukon leak, which ms thought would cost around 225 w/ 4gb of ddr4.

My prediction is that the system will have all of this, be the same size as og 360, come with kinect 2, and cost them a total of 345- 360 after packaging and shipping. and they will sell it for 399.99

LOL really? They're just batteries. That's just as crazy as not buying it for the analog positions.

Neither did I until I played Street Fighter... I prefer using the D-pad over joysticks or even the arcade sticks.

Stupid preference I know.

can we just agree to ignore rumors/leaks until the manufacturers themselves release the information and save ourselves months of potentially useless and misguided debate?

Too late Microsoft. Sony already declared you're always-on.

Sony fans you mean?

So you say 8 Core 24 CU ? Thats not two APUs thats one big APU One rumored Xbox APU has 8 Core 12 CUs so two APUs have 16 Cores and 24 CUs.

Putting two seperat APUs on one SOC makes no sense. If both APUs are on the same wafer why not just design a big APU with more efficency instead and twice the Cores/CUs ? Its pointless to use two APUs unless you have maximized whats possible on a single Wafer and putting two APUs on one Wafer makes even less sense.

But nevermind lets just assume 8 Cores 24 CUs.  Thats a huge Chip 500mm2 200 Watt so atleast as big as PS3 was which had two Chips of 235mm2 and 250mm2. The Chip will need good cooling and cost alot to produce. 

Hybrid Memory Cube technology is in its infancy just because MS joined the Consortium  doesn't mean 720 will have it.

The technology is not even ready its supposed to replace conventional Ram like DDR4. Which is not even out yet. Thats future stuff not something that can be mass produced right now.

Its absolutely unthinkable this kind of technology comes soon anywhere. 

So basically GDDR5 is the only option MS has right now to get the necessary bandwith to utilize 24 CUs. If its indeed an 8gb GDDR5 8 Core/ 24 cu machine. Its basically a PS4 on steroids and obviously costlier to produce and bigger aswell.  I think its still possible to do that though. 

But no HMC also Dual APUs make only sense if it was a quick fix because it wastes computing power to use Crossfire Setups. And has literally no advantages (just disadvantages) compared to a bigger chip.