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Jadedx on 22 April 2013
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Netyaroze said:
Jadedx said:

Always on has meant the same thing since the original roadmap leak, low powered state, can always be connected. The only reason this rumor persists is because the devkits have always online drm due to security measures. Which we only know because superdae hacked ms and stole a devkit.

 

Also this rumor is crap. The nextbox would be superhard to program for since you have 4 different chips to program for; 2 different gpus and 2 different cpus. Also this would not give the console all that much power since the xbox 360 has a total flop count of 355.2 gigaflops.

I do however believe the dual apu rumor. I imagine the system will have a large soc with both apus and a modified amd jaguar that can enter a low power state and an xbox 360 soc for bc. Also I do not believe that they will still be using ddr3, especially since they joined hmc and it has been finalized and ready for production. That set up would give them lots of power, low power usage, low heat, and low cost. Those are all the things MS wants from the next xbox according to the yukon roadmap and the superdae leak.

"I imagine the system will have a large soc with both apus and a modified amd jaguar that can enter a low power state and an xbox 360 soc for bc."

 

Large SOC with both APUs and a modified Jaguar ?

You think they will produce a large chip and put 2 APUs on it ? So basically 16 Jaguar Cores and 24 CUs (going by vgleaks) on the same chip aka a big APU not two or why would they put two seperate APUs on the chip  ?

And a 360 SOC ?

 

This will not happen. If they would put 2 APUs in it and a 360 SOC the console would be a huge monster in any case. Bigger than launch PS3 for sure. And it would cost alot. They would need another memory solution aswell like you said but how is this going to be low power and low cost ?

 

I mean it would be great to see a console like this it would definetly make me buy it but how is this supposed to work without increasing the console size and price alot over the 360 ?

 


8 core 24cu(large)

360soc (small)

2x4gb hmc(less space than current 360 ram set up)

less power needed to power each item, less connectors needed, less heat produced since they do not all need to be running at once.

As for the price: Having both apus on one soc would mean 1 chip at a fixed cost instead of multiple chips at varying costs, same reason ms did this with the 360. HMC ram is not going to be as cheap as ddr3 but it will not be that expensive considering that it is only normal ddr3 chips with tsvs and a controller. And the 360 soc was cheap when it came out 3 years ago, I doubt it costs that much to make now.

This solution has less chips than the original ps3 and is similar to the yukon leak, which ms thought would cost around 225 w/ 4gb of ddr4.

 

My prediction is that the system will have all of this, be the same size as og 360, come with kinect 2, and cost them a total of 345- 360 after packaging and shipping. and they will sell it for 399.99