That's one of the dumbest posts I've ever read. You do realise that the PS3 has been out for 11 months less than the 360 in Japan and about 15 months less in Pal regions?

Since its launch in Pal regions the 360 has sold about 215,000 per month there compared to the PS3 selling an average of 400,000.

How can that not be a good thing that the PS3 is selling twice as fast as the 360 in Pal regions? How can it not be a good sign for the future that the PS3 is selling in all regions?

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who criticize Sony's gaming strategy when they have sold more home consoles in 13 years than Nintendo have in 30. How on earth can you criticize their lack of business sense when the 8 year old PS2 is outselling the 360 so far this year?

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Last time I checked, PS3 is only ahead in Japan... And with only 20K weekly sales lead in Europe / Others it will take PS3 a while to pass 360 in that category. Just because PS3 is far ahead in Japan does not justify saying it is ahead in the rest of the world outside NA...

Just another stupid PS3 fanboy thread.

you fail to realize that Japan + EU for PS3 is only 140k behind Japan + EU for 360. PS3 outsells 360 in Japan by about 30-35k each week, and in EU it outsells it about 20-25k. With those numbers, it certainly won't take long for the PS3 to be beating the 360 in the markets outside of NA. Matter of fact, if the trend continues, it should only take about a month.

Doesn't seem like "just another stupid PS3 fanboy thread" to me, when the numbers actually back up the claim

 Smart people do stupid things the same way smart companies do stupid things.  You can be a catholic priest but if you touch an alter boy in his "naughty place" you go to jail. 

Past victories and accomplishments simply do not make you immune to future mistakes and using them as a defense is a laughably weak argument that really only fools someone who wants to believe it in the first place and Sony has without any doubt made some absolutely terrible decisions this generation.  Thats is the fact of the matter and you can spin it any way you like but it will still be a true statement.

With that said I agree with the rest of your post. The PS3 has gotten a lot healthier over the last couple of months and its far from dead in the water. But it also needs to continue showing strength if it wants to catch the 360. 

The fact is that this is only the beginning of the PS3's run towards a comeback because the week before the PS3 launched the 360 was at 5.2m WW. Here we are 14 months later and the PS3 is behind by 7.1m a gap which has gotten smaller by 100k from the beginning of october when the gap was at 7.2m. So the gap has actually gotten larger since launch.  There are of course several reasons (but not excuses) for that, one of which was its staggered launch.

So yes the PS3 is improving its numbers and its situation but no Sony is nowhere near deserving a free pass for the mistakes of this generation.  If anything the past sales success of the PS1 and PS2 in contrast to the sales of the PS3 should highlight the mistakes made, not wash them away.

@topic,

Here is a better way to do this comparison so that you don't have people jumping on you about the reasons it is the way it is:

 This way people can see whats up with Japan and nobody feels like you're trying to give the wrong impression etc...Its all sorta nitpicky but its best not to give folks a reason to pick at it if you can help it. 

The comparison is still very interesting imo because it means that soon the PS3 will be getting a boost from the rest of the World in tackling the fortified sanctuary of the US that the 360 has built up.  Its going to need a boost from all territories to start pushing into that lead.  Even the Wii craze is having an uphill battle towards that goal.

Man, there are still some reactionary Sony haters on this website after all.

??? So if the PS3 outsold the 360 in one of the US states, you can't say the 360 has outsold the PS3 in the US?

Outside of the US means everywhere combined.

Also, in following your logic, once the only region left that the 360 has outsold the PS3 is the US, you can no longer say it has the largest amount of world sales, even if it's millions ahead.  

Well, it`s normal. x360 is dead in Japan, and being outsold by ps3 in Europe since october 2007.

The other question, how long ps3 will be behind in USA. For now, gap in usa is only widering and Sony have done nothing, to stop that, only soften the gap.
Of`course average 30k gap per week in 40 weeks is just around 1 mln., BUT this still not in favour of ps3.

@CrazzyMan

While it boggles the mind Sony is actually making progress weekly in North America in a almost demented sort of way. They comprise less then sixteen percent of the domestic market, but last week they accounted for eighteen percent of market sales. Their market penetration is improving.

That said I think Microsoft and Nintendo are letting a golden opportunity slip between their fingers. Both are failing to be aggressive enough, and that could prove to be their undoing. They are in a perfect position to drive Sony out of the North American market. Nintendo should be focusing supply into the market, and Microsoft should be dropping the price on their console in an attempt to enter the mainstream market.

The reality is this if they both made the real concerted effort to do this one thing they could probably slash the PS3s lifespan in half, because getting blocked out of half the market is an effective death sentence. Microsoft has shown you can survive without Japan, and Nintendo has survived in the past without relying on Europe, but has any global console survived for long without North America.

Given the lack of aggression it appears that the PS3 is only going to get stronger over time not weaker. The higher the console sales get the better the PS3s domestic position will be, because it becomes harder to rest their market share from them.

For example sake if Nintendo sold fifteen million, Microsoft sold ten million, and Sony sold five million. In the first year Sony would account for 16.5% of the market. Now if the second year were to repeat the first identically even though the other two competitors still tripled and double the sales of Sony. Sony would still control the same percentage of the market.

I think North America can only become a concern for Sony if they develop a diminishing market share. Rather then the others merely having greater bulk sales. Sony can effectively work off a smaller market share if they can spread the load globally. They certainly will not get forced out of any market with a greater then fifteen percent market share.

Sony really doesn't have to do squat as long as the others aren't forcing them into a corner. They are not doing great, but they are doing well enough and doing better. I think the competition has a small window that is closing quickly. The only question is will they see it, or in fact do anything about it. Give Sony a few more unmolested months, and their position will be permanent if not secure. Then how it performs outside of North America will matter greatly.

You would think that Nintendo and Microsoft would welcome the prospect, but perhaps they are being too small minded about it cashing in the short term at the expense of the long term. They would generate far more money if the pie was only being divided by two, and the effect would increase their success globally. Sony has actually gotten rather lucky over the past couple months.